FortressCraft Evolved

FortressCraft Evolved

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DjArcas  [developer] Feb 28 @ 2:36pm
Frozen Factory P18 Cryoplasm Feedback Thread.
How're you finding it? Please show me screenshots of your CryoMap to go along with your text!
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Elfe Mar 1 @ 2:11pm 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1317409285

On my world "Slowcity" I have killed 3 Cold Creep Spawners and have large amount of falcor bombers.
After the patch the "inactive" directions started to break through. It washed over the defense perimeter and got to within 40m of the CCCCC.
Most bombers now seem to have woken up and started to deliver bombs.

Unfortunatly the server map does not include machines as in single player. (maybe transfer new map if it's older than 5 minutes and the player as looking at the table)
It appears that the new Creep breaks reinforced blocks.

For me the creep seems to be better now as some directions where basicly completly inactive before.

How often does the CCCCC update it's min creep distance and direction display on a server?
Last edited by Elfe; Mar 1 @ 2:40pm
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1317496066

The cryo is much better in P18. (Before mine bugged and did very little) However, the tiny tendrils (~3x3x3) grow 150m or so in a matter of seconds, making it frustrating and impossible to keep out of the base and mineshafts...No amount of reinforced concrete helped. It cut through like butter. :P

Also, it seems odd that the cryo stops after a certain distance from the magma bore. However considering I am using ~30K power (on scarce - my first mistake) just to fight one spawner (another 30K runs the base), a power balance would be required if all spawners tried to bury the magma bore. (However neat that would be!) I simply can't make 200K+ of power on scarce...

Some suggestions:
1. If programmable, have the cryo be more of a "slow" wall than the fast tendrils. (Similar to a glacier) Maybe grow say 1/10th of the distance but it is a massive wall 30Hx50W.
2. As you can see on the "north" cryo, I was able to carve a path almost to the spawner, but it couldn't care less. (Hasn't tried to filled it in) Would like to see it try to "fight" you to protect itself. Otherwise, I just ignore the fact it is near the magma bore and go kill the spawner.
DjArcas  [developer] Mar 2 @ 3:31am 
Originally posted by Elfe:
How often does the CCCCC update it's min creep distance and direction display on a server?

Should be virtually instantly.
DjArcas  [developer] Mar 2 @ 3:32am 
However, the tiny tendrils (~3x3x3) grow 150m or so in a matter of seconds,

If you cut through the tendrils, that /should/ stop that tentacle growth. We've seen nothing like that on the server at all so far!
Is it me or the cost of Toxic Particle Filter, & Suit Headlight MK1 are really high. 240 Titanium plates for Toxic Particle Filter?! It was 24 bars before that's 10X the cost. I understand making the game harder but that is just a grind. 50 plates would not be bad or even 75 for the filter but 240. Makes me want to cheat on the game more.
Mar 2 @ 3:51pm 
Originally posted by UnluckyClover:
Is it me or the cost of Toxic Particle Filter, & Suit Headlight MK1 are really high. 240 Titanium plates for Toxic Particle Filter?! It was 24 bars before that's 10X the cost. I understand making the game harder but that is just a grind. 50 plates would not be bad or even 75 for the filter but 240. Makes me want to cheat on the game more.
You only ever need to make one...
Originally posted by DjArcas:

If you cut through the tendrils, that /should/ stop that tentacle growth. We've seen nothing like that on the server at all so far!

You just wait. :)

Will try a heavy lancer defense and see if I can stop them mid growth.
Maniac Mar 3 @ 4:53am 
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998797907/screenshot/923673299823867455

This is pretty much my map pre cryo buff.
but the top middle and top right cryo were growing that little tendril very fast after the buff. i was away for a few minutes and saw the distance went from 160m clostes cryo to 60m.
snap81 Mar 3 @ 5:07am 
does it finally reach the ccccc. I haven't played in awhile but back before p17 I remember it never reached the ccccc.
Akizu Mar 3 @ 7:16am 
I didn't play much since update but I do like how aggresive cryoplasm is now. Back in P17 it was just an annoyance. Now it finally is an actual threat. It looks like I have to rethink how i set up my defenses tho as cryoplasm just goes through them now. I did notice some wierd things happening too. Like cryoplasm going through ceiling of the cavern. (There is rather low ceiling in that area)

In regards to the map, before the patch cryoplasm would only attack from top, bottom, top-left, left and bottom-left. Bottom-left spawner was actually stuck for a very long time until I blew it up with level 5 chargable explosive (for science). After that cryo went towards my base very fast intil it got stuck on cavern wall. Its been growing only sideways ever since... until P18 that is...
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1319007029
I've been playing around 5h in P18 so far and this is what happened.
Attack from "Right" direction... I totally did not expect an attack from this side:
https://youtu.be/PPU7LHUKO8c
Attack form bottom and bottom-left directions and um... Some cryoplasm skipping some of my defenses by somehow going through ceiling of the cavern? Now I regret not mining it all out.
https://youtu.be/sA9F4tzrtVg
Last edited by Akizu; Mar 3 @ 7:17am
Azlo Mar 3 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by Akizu:
Attack form bottom and bottom-left directions and um... Some cryoplasm skipping some of my defenses by somehow going through ceiling of the cavern? Now I regret not mining it all out.
https://youtu.be/sA9F4tzrtVg

That spawn at 3:10 in your second video, that what scares me.
Akizu Mar 6 @ 1:43pm 
I've finally destroyed my first cryoplasm spawner and I think something doesnt work right. Back in P17 the moment I finished CryoInferno my defenses around the spawner got literaly flooded with cryoplasm. Now on P18 I did put down way more defenses this time but spawner didn't put up any fight. After starting CryoInferno spawner was still sleeping. 40 seconds later when its sleeping timer went down to 0 it launched a short burst of cryoplasm that lasted maybe like 5 seconds and that was it. It didn't spawn any cryoplasm for the next 14 mins the CryoInferno needed.
after you have started warming the cold caves and your trying to push back the cyro for the first time, it seems much harder to spawn those pods that suck up minerals on convayers.

So after you have warmed up the cold caves a little bit how do you keep growing the mynoks ?
Last edited by Lemon Head; Mar 8 @ 11:35pm
Dexy Mar 17 @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by Akizu:
https://youtu.be/sA9F4tzrtVg
Why the graphics of your lasers lines is like that?? (4:40 - 4:45)
Last edited by Dexy; Mar 17 @ 5:44pm
Akizu Mar 18 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by Dexy:
Originally posted by Akizu:
https://youtu.be/sA9F4tzrtVg
Why the graphics of your lasers lines is like that?? (4:40 - 4:45)
Thats how they look with chrome lenses.
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