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Vis May 12, 2019 @ 1:03pm
Is This Forum Really The Place For Politics?
Personally I fall into the camp of "I don't really get it but whatever, it's not as if it hurts me, so treat me with respect and I'll treat you with respect" on the whole trans thing. But when such a good DLC came out, it's a shame half the stuff on the forums is about this little thing instead of that.

If you're against trans, just ignore it, enjoy the game. It's a good game, a nice, wholesome platformer with a lot of love put into it.

If you're pro-trans, just ignore the people who are against it. They're strangers on the internet, who cares if they disagree with you.

I just want the forum to be about the game, really.
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May 12, 2019 @ 1:06pm 
"But when such a good DLC came out"

In what games did the good DLC came out ?
Vis May 12, 2019 @ 1:07pm 
Well it's good in my opinion at least.
The Rant-man May 12, 2019 @ 1:11pm 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
"But when such a good DLC came out"

In what games did the good DLC came out ?
Epic bait.
Mike May 12, 2019 @ 1:18pm 
It's the most non-issue I've ever seen and people just want to use it as an excuse to feel self-important. It's not a central focus of the game, hell I didn't even know about it until all of this and I beat the DLC.
May 12, 2019 @ 1:23pm 
Originally posted by Vis:
Well it's good in my opinion at least.

It doesn't hold a candle to XCOM's DLC honestly. The trans propaganda aside even the new lcoations are bad and some suffer some FPS drop.
The Rant-man May 12, 2019 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
Originally posted by Vis:
Well it's good in my opinion at least.

It doesn't hold a candle to XCOM's DLC honestly. The trans propaganda aside even the new lcoations are bad and some suffer some FPS drop.
Level 5 bait alert, post not relevant to Hat in Time. Please evacuate this thread.
Dastanovich May 12, 2019 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
Originally posted by Vis:
Well it's good in my opinion at least.

It doesn't hold a candle to XCOM's DLC honestly. The trans propaganda aside even the new lcoations are bad and some suffer some FPS drop.

Did you just ♥♥♥♥ing compare a TRPG DLC done by a AAA studio to a DLC for a Platformer done by a recently-established indie studio?

Bro, that's cringe, bro
May 12, 2019 @ 2:04pm 
Originally posted by Dastanovich:
Originally posted by Deathraven13:

It doesn't hold a candle to XCOM's DLC honestly. The trans propaganda aside even the new lcoations are bad and some suffer some FPS drop.

Did you just ♥♥♥♥ing compare a TRPG DLC done by a AAA studio to a DLC for a Platformer done by a recently-established indie studio?

Bro, that's cringe, bro

Doesn't change the fact that the dlc is bad.
Dastanovich May 12, 2019 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
Originally posted by Dastanovich:

Did you just ♥♥♥♥ing compare a TRPG DLC done by a AAA studio to a DLC for a Platformer done by a recently-established indie studio?

Bro, that's cringe, bro

Doesn't change the fact that the dlc is bad.

Dude, get your whiny a$$ outta internet if you can't handle 3 stripes of color on a wall in a simple DLC! Devs put the easter-egg because they felt like it. Don't like it? Don't look at it or don't play the game. Nobody's forcing you to
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Suros:/# May 12, 2019 @ 6:20pm 
"Is this really the place for politics?"
You appear to think so as you started a thread about just that.
Magzywagzy May 12, 2019 @ 6:36pm 
but if they ignored it the issue wouldn't blow up to the proportions they want
Riddens May 12, 2019 @ 6:50pm 
a game where you sign your soul away fight a girl with a mustache dance be smug join the mafia and its forum is filled with people complaining about politics excuse me
A Big Guy May 12, 2019 @ 6:55pm 
Probably not, but whatever. GFB can't win by banning it, and they lose somewhat less by keeping it. It's a ♥♥♥♥ storm either way. I mean, regardless of what people think, that's sort of the difficulty with identity *politics*. It takes mundane aspects of who people are and makes them into *political statements* rather than just statements of character or construction of the self. And given how humans are a bunch of tribalistic apes, I'd argue that viewing identity through a political lens actually leads to attacks on *people* rather than *policy*. Innocuous statements become political rather than personal. And yes, you can make the argument that every action or belief we hold is *ultimately* political in the end, because politics is what we call the chatter in the vast network of human relationships, that politics *is* the social fabric, and everything we do or believe will impact the people around us in some small or large way. But I think that's insanely reductionist, to the point of absurdity, and it doesn't lead to anything good. Politics is also about power and the choices we make as a collective, and that stuff makes humans combative. There's no if ands or buts about that fact. That's how it works. And why? I don't know. But there's a guess that I think is as compelling as anything. The argument goes that the dumb tribalism which permeates politics evolved because tribal disputes could easily end with one of the factions exiled (and therefore dead) or just outright killed. Sticking together, even if united by objectively bad or dumb ideas, proved more valuable for passing on genes than dispassionate reasoned discourse. Given that reality, framing everything through a political lens only serves to feed information towards a dangerous hair-trigger hostile reflex.

Which is a long way of saying this shouldn't be a place for politics, but it has become one due to how modern politics has come to work. They made what constitutes a political statement. So now others are going to weigh in.

GFB included JonTron despite the hate they got for doing that. They had a little book hidden in one of the time rifts entitled "proof of ethical consumption under capitalism." It was blank. And now they tucked two trans flags into the game. Yeah, I think they have their political opinions, but so does everyone else, and they're hardly trying to cram it down our throats. I can at least respect that, given how overzealous many artists/content creators/writers/whatever are these days. And the fact that they were able to keep JonTron in demonstrates to me that they can separate people from their politics, which is something society at large could benefit from.

I have finally located the entrance to the Nyaakuza metro (rather tucked away, must say), so I'll see how well I enjoy it.
DaveFace May 13, 2019 @ 1:00am 
Originally posted by Vis:
If you're pro-trans, just ignore the people who are against it. They're strangers on the internet, who cares if they disagree with you.

Read some of the comments by the people whinging about the flag, and you'll see why ignoring bigotry is a bad idea. Stop acting as if both sides are equal and benign and transphobia isn't incredibly harmful to trans people.
Senko May 13, 2019 @ 1:25am 
if you feed the trolls they will never leave plz stop taking the bait
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