Data collection

[G - {teamScootch}]

Did anyone else read about the nifty little bit about how much they actually collect?

Why do they need to track my data, just kill zombies?

The new TOS is garbage, I immediately declined.

Edit: I have replied to several of you, and most of you have interesting things to say; Key-words being "most of you".

I'm unsubbing from this conversation and moving on to playing games instead of coming back here.

Take it easy and remember to read those TOS.

[[COS]Puff|)r@g0nZ]

Oh no, now the world knows about my porn and chinese food.

[G - {teamScootch}]

Originally posted by COSPuff|)r@g0nZ:

Oh no, now the world knows about my porn and chinese food.

It's more about information that end up getting leaked and then your profiles are hacked. It's not like the US just had the biggest data-breach in history or anything; Go off

[James]

Originally posted by G - {teamScootch}:

Did anyone else read about the nifty little bit about how much they actually collect?

Why do they need to track my data, just kill zombies?

The new TOS is garbage, I immediately declined.

What data do you think they're collecting?

Name specifics so that us minions can understand it better.

[James]

Provide it with proof too. Let's avoid any speculation.

[SylenThunder]

OP didn't even actually read the EULA.

Only two sections even refer to data collection now. Unlike when they were using Gamesparks to track how people were playing the game.

II. INFORMATION COLLECTION & USAGE.

By installing and using this software, you consent to these information collection and usage terms. If you connect to the Internet when using the Software, either through a gaming platform network, or any other method, Licensor may receive information from hardware manufacturers or gaming platform hosts and may automatically collect certain information from your computer or gaming unit. This information may include, but is not limited to, user IDs (such as gamer tags and screen names), game scores, game statistics, game achievements, game performance, locations visited, friends lists, hardware MAC address, internet protocol address, and your usage of various game features. All information collected by Licensor is intended to be anonymous information that does not disclose your identity or constitute personal information, however, if you include personal information (such as your real name) in your user ID, then such personal information will automatically be transmitted to Licensor and used as described herein.

The information collected by Licensor may be posted by Licensor on publicly-accessible web sites, shared with hardware manufacturers, shared with platform hosts, shared with Licensor’s marketing partners or used by Licensor for any other lawful purpose. By using this Software you consent to the Licensor’s use of related data, including public display of your data such as identification of your user created content or displaying your scores, ranking, achievements and other gameplay data. If you do not want your information shared in this manner, then you should not use the Software.

So it tells you right there.

This information may include, but is not limited to,

• user IDs (such as gamer tags and screen names)
  
• game scores
  
• game statistics
  
• game achievements
  
• game performance
  
• locations visited
  
• friends lists
  
• hardware MAC address
  
• internet protocol address
  
• and your usage of various game features

Most of this is already public information just by you making a post on the forum.

You also consent that they are able to use anything you create using their product.

[Sr Humungus]

Originally posted by G - {teamScootch}:

Did anyone else read about the nifty little bit about how much they actually collect?

Why do they need to track my data, just kill zombies?

The new TOS is garbage, I immediately declined.

For your post OP i suspect you are young, let me explain:

When you navigate online with any navigator, you are giving info of what you see, time you spend, your ip, data you see, preferred connection time, etc... to your ISP, to the webs you are in, and also to data centers.

When you buy something without using cash, you are giving the same info + the things you saw previously before purchase, credit card company you use, etc, that's how ad companies know what ad's are suitable for you.

Also governments track you, anyone, USA, China, UE, etc.. and believe me, noone is a saint.

Mobile devices? they are small computers, so same.

Game companies do it too? take it for sure.

So, knowing this, what do you want? the same moment you live inside a country, you are trapped, better enjoy your life all the best you can and leave this things apart.

[Dreaming Prince]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

So it tells you right there.

This information may include, but is not limited to,

lol
soo.. basically, in other words, they dont tell us at all. nice

[SylenThunder]

Originally posted by Dreaming Prince:

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

So it tells you right there.

This information may include, but is not limited to,

lol
soo.. basically, in other words, they dont tell us at all. nice

Go ahead and try specifically listing the first 20 things that could be included that aren't listed.

Then try to come up with another 20.

Then imagine that something changes, and you can come up with now 50 more things.

EULA's are vague in some areas for a reason.

[Dreaming Prince]

Originally posted by Sr Humungus:

Originally posted by G - {teamScootch}:

Did anyone else read about the nifty little bit about how much they actually collect?

Why do they need to track my data, just kill zombies?

The new TOS is garbage, I immediately declined.

For your post OP i suspect you are still young, let me explain:

When you navigate online with any navigator, you are giving info of what you see, time you spend, your ip, data you see, preferred connection time, etc... to your ISP, to the webs you are in, and also to data centers.

When you buy something without using cash, you are giving the same info + the things you saw previously before purchase, credit card company you use, etc, that's how ad companies know what ad's are suitable for you.

Also governments track you, anyone, USA, China, UE, etc.. and believe me, noone is a saint.

Mobile devices? they are small computers, so same.

Game companies do it too? take it for sure.

So, knowing this, what you want? the same moment you live inside a country, you are trapped, better enjoy your life all the best you can and leave this things apart.

you really think all this spying and personality profiling is for ad's? lol... thats just the attack vector. if you want something shady done, make it profitable and there will always be people willing to do it without thinking to hard on consequences or morality, or asking questions.

[Sr Humungus]

Originally posted by Dreaming Prince:

You really think all this spying and personality profiling is for ad's? lol... thats just the attack vector. if you want something shady done, make it profitable and there will always be people willing to do it without thinking to hard on consequences or morality, or asking questions.

The idea is let OP think declining the license to play a game because demons are tracking his soul is absurd, all the world around us makes the same, with or without shady intentions, so, being a pitiful grain of dust, better enjoy the game and have fun with it.

Edit: And no, its not only for ad's.

[onanonehand8]

The only practical solution is to not play. It really is that simple. Evil corporations... yeah forever. And we have always been the product. Please explain cell phones, store discount cards, mapping gadgets, and the list goes on.

Living in a cave with a Faraday cage might give one security, but paranoia real or not is pervasive.

[iStealthious]

*Places tin foil hat on head* Dont worry guys, ill play for you.

[JoeSloeMoe]

Just want to point out that you can set Steam to be in offline mode. Play a session of 7DTD then set it back online afterwards. You still have some control - this is what I do, I've played thousands of hours and I figure that by now the devs have enough stats from me. Even though they have my thousands of hours playing stats they still seem to move the game in the opposite direction to my play style, so I figure they are not really using my stats anyway.
cheers

[Dreaming Prince]

Originally posted by SylenThunder:

Originally posted by Dreaming Prince:

lol
soo.. basically, in other words, they dont tell us at all. nice

Go ahead and try specifically listing the first 20 things that could be included that aren't listed.

Then try to come up with another 20.

Then imagine that something changes, and you can come up with now 50 more things.

EULA's are vague in some areas for a reason.

yeah they dont "tells you right there." at all. all meaningless lawyer slime. might aswell have said eula: by installing this software you consent to the following: whatever, slaves.

Originally posted by JoeSloeMoe:

so I figure they are not really using my stats anyway.
cheers

i guess its probably not collected for their use, but get money for it

[G - {teamScootch}]

Originally posted by Sr Humungus:

Originally posted by G - {teamScootch}:

Did anyone else read about the nifty little bit about how much they actually collect?

Why do they need to track my data, just kill zombies?

The new TOS is garbage, I immediately declined.

For your post OP i suspect you are young, let me explain:

When you navigate online with any navigator, you are giving info of what you see, time you spend, your ip, data you see, preferred connection time, etc... to your ISP, to the webs you are in, and also to data centers.

When you buy something without using cash, you are giving the same info + the things you saw previously before purchase, credit card company you use, etc, that's how ad companies know what ad's are suitable for you.

Also governments track you, anyone, USA, China, UE, etc.. and believe me, noone is a saint.

Mobile devices? they are small computers, so same.

Game companies do it too? take it for sure.

So, knowing this, what do you want? the same moment you live inside a country, you are trapped, better enjoy your life all the best you can and leave this things apart.

Decline > Agree, cause "no one is a saint."

I see what you mean, but the amount data-collection as well as data-tracking is unnecessary. There are multitudes of games without any TOS at all.

since you assume I'm young, am I to assume that you're old? What does that even matter in this situation?