And it's pay for advantage on release in early access

[Tazor]

Or pay to win. Or pay for convenience. Or pay to grind less. Or pay to support the devs. Whatever. Call it what you want. Pick something from the list. Or make up another pay for X.

That was enough to kill any interest I had in this video game.

What can I say MADFINGER Games, a.s.? Clearly I am not part of your target audience. Even though I have 1200 hours in Arma 3. Good luck with your target audience. I don't know who they are. Mobile players maybe? They like paying for this kind of stuff.

[Mystic_Phoenix]

Originally posted by Latetzki:

Originally posted by Apox:

the reason is most of the players atm comming from eft and they already know the drill of P2W or getting huge advantage from stuff like Edge of Darkness packed and already normalized it but it isnt and its still p2w no matter what they say or try to deffend it

If you would have played Tarkov with EOD you would know that it doesn't give any advantage in PVP. Having larger stash and better rep with traders doesn't help you in PVP.

Stash size doesn't, but just about everything else was directly p2w.

[Tazor]

Originally posted by Latetzki:

Originally posted by Apox:

the reason is most of the players atm comming from eft and they already know the drill of P2W or getting huge advantage from stuff like Edge of Darkness packed and already normalized it but it isnt and its still p2w no matter what they say or try to deffend it

If you would have played Tarkov with EOD you would know that it doesn't give any advantage in PVP. Having larger stash and better starting rep with traders doesn't help you in PVP.

Ah. The age old "If it only helps with progression or PVE it is not p2w" non argument.

[カミナ]

Originally posted by Latetzki:

Originally posted by Apox:

the reason is most of the players atm comming from eft and they already know the drill of P2W or getting huge advantage from stuff like Edge of Darkness packed and already normalized it but it isnt and its still p2w no matter what they say or try to deffend it

If you would have played Tarkov with EOD you would know that it doesn't give any advantage in PVP. Having larger stash and better starting rep with traders doesn't help you in PVP.

That is such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Progression in tarkov gives you better gear and yes stash and secure container is a huge advantage.

If I'm in resort pvping and I have a docs case and an injector in my secure container and I find a gpu as standard all my meds are in my rig or backpack and I cant even shove the gpu in the secure container. I have played both EOD and standard and gotten kappa multiple times.

It is 100 percent p2w. Stop lying. Progression gives you better ammo, better armor, better guns etc. and you have a bigger stash to store all that stuff and hoard items for barters etc.

[<S P A C E>]

Ok, I work a lot and I don't have time to read the entire forum. I work 29 hours day 9 days a week, i would be interested in a version where paying an extra fee to stay in the "Top Ten but not P2W, is that I have no time to play" list? Surely more than one subscribes.

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[Nihilister]

Of course EoD is 100% P2W ... only delusional brain dead people would think otherwise

[Uncle Dan]

Originally posted by Nihilister:

Originally posted by Uncle Dan:

Nothing wrong with paying a little extra for a mild bit of convenience. Some people work 60+ hours a week and don't have the ability to play as much as others. If an extra $60 for a few extra guns and a bigger prison pouch is enough to make you dislike the game then you were never going to like it to begin with and are looking for any reason to complain.

lol, little P2W players can't compete on a levelled playing field

Originally posted by Nihilister:

Originally posted by Uncle Dan:

Nothing wrong with paying a little extra for a mild bit of convenience. Some people work 60+ hours a week and don't have the ability to play as much as others. If an extra $60 for a few extra guns and a bigger prison pouch is enough to make you dislike the game then you were never going to like it to begin with and are looking for any reason to complain.

lol, little P2W players can't compete on a levelled playing field

I am exclusively playing pve so there is literally no advantage whatsoever. However i do feel like the crying over people getting some slightly better gear in the beginning is far more annoying than the already mostly trash players starting with a few extra decent guns.

[Chris]

Originally posted by =HT=E5DESTROYER:

my god cry me a river..

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[Darxide]

Cool, no one gives a ♥♥♥♥, go play something else.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Latetzki:

Originally posted by Apox:

the reason is most of the players atm comming from eft and they already know the drill of P2W or getting huge advantage from stuff like Edge of Darkness packed and already normalized it but it isnt and its still p2w no matter what they say or try to deffend it

If you would have played Tarkov with EOD you would know that it doesn't give any advantage in PVP. Having larger stash and better starting rep with traders doesn't help you in PVP.

Dude. The EoD editions gives players higher end gear that other players can't even access at the start of a wipe. Quite grubbing Nikitas bawls.

[stormii]

so essentially skins to your char and some extra gear is p2w? Last time I checked, good guns or items don't fix no skill or a severe lack of skill.

[Lars1977]

I wanted to like GZW, but I don't support p2w games, guess I'm out.

[カミナ]

Originally posted by stormii:

so essentially skins to your char and some extra gear is p2w? Last time I checked, good guns or items don't fix no skill or a severe lack of skill.

Its not about fixing skill.

all else being equal does it improve? The answer is yes so it's p2w.

It's so stupid if something is only "p2w" if a toddler can buy something and beat a pro. That isn't how this works. If it's an advantage it's p2w.

If I play mario party with you and you start with a handicap of 3 stars and I still win does that mean the 3 stars you started with gave you no advantage? No it just means you suck so bad it didn't matter. It's still p2w.

[BrotherO4]

yea, the fact i can pay extra to gain any advantage is BS. so its a hard skip.. make it Skins only for the supporter pack. that is fine..zero gameplay.

no early unlock, starter advantage, or anything like that.

[Omnishadow]

Bad players are going to lose it all anyways. But yes it is certainly P2W. Not a dealbreaker for a Tarkov refugee like me tho.

[Tazor]

Originally posted by Omnishadow:

Bad players are going to lose it all anyways. But yes it is certainly P2W. Not a dealbreaker for a Tarkov refugee like me tho.

Don't you have a problem with the fact they rushed this video game out the door in order to capitalise on the recent Tarkov fiasco? BSG releases 250 euro version (without taxes) and everyone loses their mind. Less than 1 week later MADFINGER Games, a.s. releases a broken barely functional product. And look at that. The review section is filled with meme reviews from Tarkov players.