Dedicated GPU?

[InstantHumanJustAddCoffee]

I am all for high-quality games, but I am also about options. Excuse my ignorance in these matters, but why not have the option to dumb down the graphics enough for those of us who want to play but don't have the resources to buy some fancy gaming PC? My computer isn't horrible, but it definitely does not have a dedicated GPU.
I was really looking forward to this game, but it looks as though I am not going to have the option to play it. Even the demo won't so much as try to open the game. It immediately gives me a popup saying as much.
My ideal scenario would be to launch a lower-quality menu/launcher that gives you the option to play at the highest quality—or a lower, more reasonable-for-the-average-player quality. Again, I understand if that’s technically difficult or not feasible for this title, but it would be nice if more games kept lower-spec players in mind. Not all of us can afford expensive gaming PCs, but we still want a shot at enjoying this game in some form as well.
Oh well, back to The Sims I guess?

[Sero]

Origineel geplaatst door Caduryn:

Origineel geplaatst door Meow Clawmore:

But yeah, dev should optimize more to dumb down the requirement. My laptop with 4GB vram simply can't play this game even at minimum.

But why?
Why optimize a 2025 game to be able to run on 2008 Hardware....?

Probably because a huge part of the life sim playerbase are not hardcore gamers and having to buy a new card is a big investment.
Even with that quoted 130 dollar card that still raises the price of the game to 170.
Are you willing to pay that for a game?

[Darkvader no. 49]

allmost every realistic game in unreal engine 5 is intense. maybe if we get custom engine.inis it would be possible to run it on lower end hardware. but its WAYY better optimized then when the demo was out 7 mounths ago. 7 mounths ago it was so poorly optimized (but that was just the chareter creator demo 7 moiunths ago. at least its not like cities skylines 2 optimizartion launch be greateful for that. and TWO this game uses AI so that means the system specifications are going to be HIGH

[Caduryn]

Origineel geplaatst door Sero:

Origineel geplaatst door Caduryn:

But why?
Why optimize a 2025 game to be able to run on 2008 Hardware....?

Probably because a huge part of the life sim playerbase are not hardcore gamers and having to buy a new card is a big investment.
Even with that quoted 130 dollar card that still raises the price of the game to 170.
Are you willing to pay that for a game?

Ofc, since you open yourself up to even more Games then JUST this.

[Caduryn]

Origineel geplaatst door InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

Origineel geplaatst door Caduryn:

But why?
Why optimize a 2025 game to be able to run on 2008 Hardware....?

I agree with you. I would in no way wish that they dumb down the whole game, because that wouldn't be fair for those who do have a better setup. I simply would like them to offer a "dumb down" setting. My laptop isn't old, it is just a laptop not a desktop.

And then the Game would look worse then Sims 4 so why this then over Sims 4? ^^

[AnonTwo]

I do feel the need to point out, but if you don't have a dedicated GPU, your hardware is pretty close to horrible.

Integrated Graphics are generally for like, browser laptops. The fact they work for old games is just a blessing, but to build around them is difficult while also trying to make something for modern PCs.

It would still be nice and I'll certainly vouch for them to try, just don't get your hopes up.

[Kat]

Origineel geplaatst door Sero:

Origineel geplaatst door Caduryn:

But why?
Why optimize a 2025 game to be able to run on 2008 Hardware....?

Probably because a huge part of the life sim playerbase are not hardcore gamers and having to buy a new card is a big investment.
Even with that quoted 130 dollar card that still raises the price of the game to 170.
Are you willing to pay that for a game?

People buy $400+ for a new console when a new game (often $60) releases on the platform. You asking devs to make new games work on a PS3?

Yes, it sucks that some people will unfortunately be excluded, but that is the way of technology. Its just less obvious on PC because we don't get "generations" the way consoles do.

[InstantHumanJustAddCoffee]

Origineel geplaatst door Caduryn:

Origineel geplaatst door InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

I agree with you. I would in no way wish that they dumb down the whole game, because that wouldn't be fair for those who do have a better setup. I simply would like them to offer a "dumb down" setting. My laptop isn't old, it is just a laptop not a desktop.

And then the Game would look worse then Sims 4 so why this then over Sims 4? ^^

Simply put, open world. I was more excited about the game play elements rather than the graphics. I was also a little excited about the build mode.

[InstantHumanJustAddCoffee]

Origineel geplaatst door Kat:

Origineel geplaatst door Sero:

Probably because a huge part of the life sim playerbase are not hardcore gamers and having to buy a new card is a big investment.
Even with that quoted 130 dollar card that still raises the price of the game to 170.
Are you willing to pay that for a game?

People buy $400+ for a new console when a new game (often $60) releases on the platform. You asking devs to make new games work on a PS3?

Yes, it sucks that some people will unfortunately be excluded, but that is the way of technology. Its just less obvious on PC because we don't get "generations" the way consoles do.

Unfortunately cost of living these days doesn't justify the price of a new computer to play one game. If people want to buy a whole new PC to play this, and it is within their means to do so, by all means. That was partly why I was suggesting have a dumb down option, rather than replacing the whole game. I would never wish for those with the means to sacrifice the quality this game has to offer. I really appreciate that take by Sero. I am not the "serious gamer" demographic, but I am the life sim demographic. And while there is plenty of nuance to the two, I can in no way justify purchasing a whole PC just for one game. I don't consider that a sound purchase for me personally. If I had a list of games I really wanted to play, that may be different...I may choose to budget for one, but that is just not the case here.

[Caduryn]

Origineel geplaatst door InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

Origineel geplaatst door Kat:

People buy $400+ for a new console when a new game (often $60) releases on the platform. You asking devs to make new games work on a PS3?

Yes, it sucks that some people will unfortunately be excluded, but that is the way of technology. Its just less obvious on PC because we don't get "generations" the way consoles do.

Unfortunately cost of living these days doesn't justify the price of a new computer to play one game. If people want to buy a whole new PC to play this, and it is within their means to do so, by all means. That was partly why I was suggesting have a dumb down option, rather than replacing the whole game. I would never wish for those with the means to sacrifice the quality this game has to offer. I really appreciate that take by Sero. I am not the "serious gamer" demographic, but I am the life sim demographic. And while there is plenty of nuance to the two, I can in no way justify purchasing a whole PC just for one game. I don't consider that a sound purchase for me personally. If I had a list of games I really wanted to play, that may be different...I may choose to budget for one, but that is just not the case here.

Absolutly no one is buying a new Computer just for ONE Game.

[Kat]

Origineel geplaatst door InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

Origineel geplaatst door Kat:

People buy $400+ for a new console when a new game (often $60) releases on the platform. You asking devs to make new games work on a PS3?

Yes, it sucks that some people will unfortunately be excluded, but that is the way of technology. Its just less obvious on PC because we don't get "generations" the way consoles do.

Unfortunately cost of living these days doesn't justify the price of a new computer to play one game. If people want to buy a whole new PC to play this, and it is within their means to do so, by all means. That was partly why I was suggesting have a dumb down option, rather than replacing the whole game. I would never wish for those with the means to sacrifice the quality this game has to offer. I really appreciate that take by Sero. I am not the "serious gamer" demographic, but I am the life sim demographic. And while there is plenty of nuance to the two, I can in no way justify purchasing a whole PC just for one game. I don't consider that a sound purchase for me personally. If I had a list of games I really wanted to play, that may be different...I may choose to budget for one, but that is just not the case here.

I get that, and as I said, its unfortunate how system requirements can balloon and exclude people from something they were hoping to enjoy. An option that many are making is GeForce Now, if thats within your means.

[InstantHumanJustAddCoffee]

Origineel geplaatst door Kat:

Origineel geplaatst door InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

Unfortunately cost of living these days doesn't justify the price of a new computer to play one game. If people want to buy a whole new PC to play this, and it is within their means to do so, by all means. That was partly why I was suggesting have a dumb down option, rather than replacing the whole game. I would never wish for those with the means to sacrifice the quality this game has to offer. I really appreciate that take by Sero. I am not the "serious gamer" demographic, but I am the life sim demographic. And while there is plenty of nuance to the two, I can in no way justify purchasing a whole PC just for one game. I don't consider that a sound purchase for me personally. If I had a list of games I really wanted to play, that may be different...I may choose to budget for one, but that is just not the case here.

I get that, and as I said, its unfortunate how system requirements can balloon and exclude people from something they were hoping to enjoy. An option that many are making is GeForce Now, if thats within your means.

I do appreciate that suggestion. I am not very smart in these things, but I believe my limitation is in the dedicated GPU. Not having that seems to be the only thing that doesn't meet the minimal requirements. I don't know that getting a new driver would help that.

[Caduryn]

Origineel geplaatst door InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

Origineel geplaatst door Kat:

I get that, and as I said, its unfortunate how system requirements can balloon and exclude people from something they were hoping to enjoy. An option that many are making is GeForce Now, if thats within your means.

I do appreciate that suggestion. I am not very smart in these things, but I believe my limitation is in the dedicated GPU. Not having that seems to be the only thing that doesn't meet the minimal requirements. I don't know that getting a new driver would help that.

GeforceNow is not a Driver, you play Games on outsourced Hardware, it requires a good Internet.

[Kat]

Origineel geplaatst door InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

Origineel geplaatst door Kat:

I get that, and as I said, its unfortunate how system requirements can balloon and exclude people from something they were hoping to enjoy. An option that many are making is GeForce Now, if thats within your means.

I do appreciate that suggestion. I am not very smart in these things, but I believe my limitation is in the dedicated GPU. Not having that seems to be the only thing that doesn't meet the minimal requirements. I don't know that getting a new driver would help that.

GeForce Now is a game streaming service, so you pay like $20 a month or something and you can play a game on Geforce's PC's that have all the spec you need, and it just streams to whatever PC you have, so as long as you have a decent internet connection, you can play any game they offer without you needing to have a beast of a PC

[InstantHumanJustAddCoffee]

Origineel geplaatst door Caduryn:

Origineel geplaatst door InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

I do appreciate that suggestion. I am not very smart in these things, but I believe my limitation is in the dedicated GPU. Not having that seems to be the only thing that doesn't meet the minimal requirements. I don't know that getting a new driver would help that.

GeforceNow is not a Driver, you play Games on outsourced Hardware, it requires a good Internet.

Oh, that is interesting. Thank you for clarifying that. I will check it out!

[Odium]

why doesnt my analog nokia flip phone work anymore on these new age networks? 2g was good enough, why cant I just use that instead of the fancy schmancy 5g??