recon needs nerfs badly.

[blazegamma]

The game is supposed to be strategic/tactical, yet we have recon who have permanent mobility run, longest stealth, and have abusable hopping while stealthed, gibing them both stealth and ridiculously abused mobility that makes it hard to aim at since it's both moving fast and has cloaking to distort its figure and make it harder to aim at.

Recon needs to have this crap disabled while cloaked, i've seen it abused so many times like det pack dropping/rush for example. Where is the strategy and tactical aspect in this? This is Halo level ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ honestly.

[glub♥Linux]

Cloak is already slightly less effective while moving.

Motion vision is the best counter to detpack rushes.

What else do you propose?

Spoiler: nobody will do anything about it, don't waste your time.

[Tenchi]

Detpak rushes are difficult and really high risk, half the time the recon is going to die to it's own bomb or get gutted on the way because they are defenseless until the pack drops.
Git gud.

[V_guessWho]

I wonder what you'd say about fade in NS

[Snilah]

good recons stomp pubs

good assaults stomp everything

good supports r cute

[blazegamma]

Originally posted by Snilah:

good recons stomp pubs

good assaults stomp everything

good supports r cute :Furrowed:

good recons know how to abuse staying still and cloaking to completely nullify kinetic vision and make it backfire.

[V_guessWho]

Originally posted by blazegamma:

Originally posted by Snilah:

good recons stomp pubs

good assaults stomp everything

good supports r cute :Furrowed:

good recons know how to abuse staying still and cloaking to completely nullify kinetic vision and make it backfire.

So do you complain that they move fast or that they stand still? I am confused

[blazegamma]

Originally posted by V_guessWho:

Originally posted by blazegamma:

good recons know how to abuse staying still and cloaking to completely nullify kinetic vision and make it backfire.

So do you complain that they move fast or that they stand still? I am confused

they're overloaded. they have too much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. let me add this as well, even if you're an assault against a recon, your kinetic vision still doesn't counter the fact that they can jump out of a corner with massive mobility and spray you before you can turn fast enough to aim at them.
You're trying too hard to only focus on one thing rather than looking at the problem the recon class is as a whole.

[Austin James]

Listen, if you feel it is bad, I'd say don't play. When I go on and I pick Recon, I look forward to bunnyhopping. It's quite easy to emulate and some classes though.

[niar]

Get good.

[blazegamma]

Originally posted by James:

Listen, if you feel it is bad, I'd say don't play. When I go on and I pick Recon, I look forward to bunnyhopping. It's quite easy to emulate and some classes though.

uh no, it's a recon exclusive ability that uses their energy the sam way running uses energy on assault. other classes can't emulate it because it's a recon only ability that lets them jump that ridiculous distance.

[Tenchi]

Originally posted by niar:

Get good.

^^^^

[V_guessWho]

Try playing recon class yourself

[LEXS0SA WITH A ZERO]

git gud as assault

[blazegamma]

Originally posted by V_guessWho:

Try playing recon class yourself :ss2heart:

there's no merit. It's like kids in league tryharding in bronze with Yi, Jax, or Xin with sated devourer and rageblade.

it's like "wow you can abuse broken ♥♥♥♥ and talk like you're good."

[niar]

Seriously though, you can learn the rush timings and common routes with fairly reasonable amount of effort. Then it's just a matter of holding/prenading those or otherwise adapting to minimize the damage. Of course the timings fluctuate with different players but you have 7 rounds to adjust.

Any recon is pretty much screwed running into double assault crossfire. There are reasons teams don't run 5 recon setups in comp.