PSA: Don't give spare Beta invitations to strangers

[Ryan Mald]

If any of your extra invitations have been claimed, and you decide you want a refund, you NEED the recipient of the extra invites to go to steam support and allow the refund. Otherwise, you can not refund a PREORDER. Steam needs to step in and fix this.

[Zouls]

Wow yeah thats wild

[Termix]

Well they need to at least secure some sales, lol.

[Juicer Mcgavin]

the devs likely set it up this way to deter refunds. "hey heres some codes to share with others online (btw you cant refund unless you contact each person you shared the codes with. good luck) lmao

[Zouls]

Originally posted by Juicer Mcgavin:

the devs likely set it up this way to deter refunds. "hey heres some codes to share with others online (btw you cant refund unless you contact each person you shared the codes with. good luck) lmao

its always funny when people who says steam is perfect blame the devs on systems steam controls lmao

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by Zouls:

Originally posted by Juicer Mcgavin:

the devs likely set it up this way to deter refunds. "hey heres some codes to share with others online (btw you cant refund unless you contact each person you shared the codes with. good luck) lmao

its always funny when people who says steam is perfect blame the devs on systems steam controls lmao

To be fair, Steam changed this a while ago specifically to counter rampant abuse and did so at the request of its users who were whining non-stop about it. There were a lot of other issues back then too (game gifting sales/trades), but ya this was one of them.

It's a classic case of can't please everyone, but in general it was a good idea I think, especially back when when devs used to be allowed to sell bundles and packs and offer giftable extra copies. Because it's not fun being gifted a game you enjoy and just having it ripped from you while you're in the middle of playing it.

And in this case, it's mostly the dev's fault since they could have used a universal system like many other games. For instance, a code that you put in on their site that generates a detached Steam key for the beta. This is what a lot of developers do. For some reason, Concord's devs did not.

Some advice: use that brain from time to time instead of being as blindly spiteful as the people you're hissing at.

[Zouls]

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

Originally posted by Zouls:

its always funny when people who says steam is perfect blame the devs on systems steam controls lmao

To be fair, Steam changed this a while ago specifically to counter rampant abuse and did so at the request of its users who were whining non-stop about it. There were a lot of other issues back then too (game gifting sales/trades), but ya this was one of them.

It's a classic case of can't please everyone, but in general it was a good idea I think, especially back when when devs used to be allowed to sell bundles and packs and offer giftable extra copies. Because it's not fun being gifted a game you enjoy and just having it ripped from you while you're in the middle of playing it.

And in this case, it's mostly the dev's fault since they could have used a universal system like many other games. For instance, a code that you put in on their site that generates a detached Steam key for the beta. This is what a lot of developers do. For some reason, Concord's devs did not.

Some advice: use that brain from time to time instead of being as blindly spiteful as the people you're hissing at.

except you literally just said its a steam limitation and people go "hurr hurr its malicious dev system"

And no, i have not seen any game on steam that does the nonsense you are talking about, NONE, the closest has been other launchers like ubisoft, which has always given multiple keys out, and even they send the keys through internally.

It makes perfect sense that you cant just go in and buy it, give out the 4 keys and refund instantly, and then just have someone else do the same to give everyone keys for free.

How about you read your own post instead of coming with snide stupid comments about how they should have done something nobody does.

[Theta]

Yes, I've been one of those victims :')

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by Zouls:

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

To be fair, Steam changed this a while ago specifically to counter rampant abuse and did so at the request of its users who were whining non-stop about it. There were a lot of other issues back then too (game gifting sales/trades), but ya this was one of them.

It's a classic case of can't please everyone, but in general it was a good idea I think, especially back when when devs used to be allowed to sell bundles and packs and offer giftable extra copies. Because it's not fun being gifted a game you enjoy and just having it ripped from you while you're in the middle of playing it.

And in this case, it's mostly the dev's fault since they could have used a universal system like many other games. For instance, a code that you put in on their site that generates a detached Steam key for the beta. This is what a lot of developers do. For some reason, Concord's devs did not.

Some advice: use that brain from time to time instead of being as blindly spiteful as the people you're hissing at.

except you literally just said its a steam limitation and people go "hurr hurr its malicious dev system"

And no, i have not seen any game on steam that does the nonsense you are talking about, NONE, the closest has been other launchers like ubisoft, which has always given multiple keys out, and even they send the keys through internally.

It makes perfect sense that you cant just go in and buy it, give out the 4 keys and refund instantly, and then just have someone else do the same to give everyone keys for free.

How about you read your own post instead of coming with snide stupid comments about how they should have done something nobody does.

How about you actually read my post, calm down and stop being emotional, and take my advice and use your brain?

If you haven't seen any game on Steam do the 'nonsense' I'm talking about, "none," then sorry, you're obviously new to Steam. Most games use invites or detached codes. That's why people give out codes to strangers, because they're not usually tied to your account in any meaningful way. The way they're doing it here is not typical.

And I didn't say it's a Steam limitation, I said the system was changed to avoid multiple kinds of abuse.

What's ironic is that even Valve does the way Concord should have because it's simply the smarter way to handle betas like this; they even did it with the Dota 2 beta waaaaaaaaay back and again with Artifiact and shall we say possible future projects that may or may be ongoing testing currently.

But no games have ever done it, right? Derp derp.

Anyway, whether or not you want to throw a tantrum about it, this is the dev's fault because it was their choice, and probably out of laziness if not simply Sony once again misunderstanding Steam and taking the less efficient path.

Not Steam's fault. That's kinda it.

[Juicer Mcgavin]

Originally posted by Zouls:

Originally posted by Juicer Mcgavin:

the devs likely set it up this way to deter refunds. "hey heres some codes to share with others online (btw you cant refund unless you contact each person you shared the codes with. good luck) lmao

its always funny when people who says steam is perfect blame the devs on systems steam controls lmao

do you think devs have zero input or control over how these things work? do you think steam randomly decided to do it with this beta when ive never seen it happen with other free bundled beta codes in my 30 years of gaming experiences?

[Snow]

too funny

[Madmonkey68]

All according to plan

[Bobby]

this is a sick joke

[Yuhno]

damn thats wild, if someone got a spare key im here btw :)