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New Squad(s) within Verdun: Harlem Hell fighters, Indians / New Central Power Squads
There have been many squads added within Verdun, although I don't see why the Indians have not been added yet within Verdun as a squad alone. Is there any possibility there will be Indians within Verdun in the future, or perhaps more central power squads added to Verdun? The Entente side, has many squads yet lack the Indians, and probably there are more, such as the Harlem Hell Fighters for the US, including the Central power they are very limited in current squads, this is my own opinion if you agree or don't, that's totally fine.
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Ganz Jan 5 @ 4:01am 
I would say it's probably because they're trying to be a little more historically accurate than BF1, and those squads didn't play much of a role in the grand scheme of things. But you never know, more content is always good
They aren't doing nothing wrong, by adding an Indian squad or somethin' and plus they are not comparable when it comes to BF1, they are the clear winners when it comes to the most accurate and realistic WWI themed game. They didn't play a huge role, but it still would be nice to see them as they'd be a unique set to go along with the current squads. I agree more content is always better.
Yuithgf Jan 5 @ 7:11am 
indians have nothing to add and we already have 4 commonwealth squads, most of em being rather bland. dont need another one.

harlem hellfighters were rare and didnt saw much action, we have enough american squads too.
Bishop Jan 5 @ 7:26am 
Issue is that squads need to bring new content, Indian forces and Harlem Hellfighters lack that, they don't fit any of the open squad roles for the British or French forces. Germany similar case, lack of new content to add for them and they have all squad types.
Yuithgf Jan 5 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by Bishop:
Germany similar case, lack of new content to add for them and they have all squad types.
i mean, devs could pull a senegalese and mix 2 squad types, as long as the squad plays different from what we have its fine. or make a new type, even if its exclusive to germany.

still has the weapon problem though, iirc the new weapons a german squad could get are:

-kar98 with trench mag
-diskushandgranate/kugelhandgranate impact nades
-dreyse pistol, walther model 4 and other pistols (but germany already has 2)
-nebelbombe ported from tannen?

its a little light, as most of these would only go to one role or two
Last edited by Yuithgf; Jan 5 @ 7:32am
Originally posted by Yuithgf:
indians have nothing to add and we already have 4 commonwealth squads, most of em being rather bland. dont need another one.

harlem hellfighters were rare and didnt saw much action, we have enough american squads too.

We have enough American squads, but to say that the Harlem hellfighters didnt see much action is incorrect. They saw a ton of action, more so than many white units. Do your research before spouting nonsense.
i think in a custom game that a player could almost have a Hellfighters squad using the Tirailleurs if in 1918 gear.
the Hellfighters did use the French helmet.
the Hellfighters did use mostly French weapons, especially the 3-shot Berthier rifle.
the Hellfighters did have Doughboys shirts, pants, and belts, however.
and i doubt if many Hellfighters spoke French.

one does have to sometimes use some imagination in creating custom scenarios, but i would suggest those interested to try the Tirailleurs in 1918 gear for some custom match featuring the Hellfighters. i think the two maps most relevant for the Hellfighters are Champagne and Argonne.
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Yuithgf Jan 5 @ 8:21am 
Originally posted by {O|G} ZeroFuqsGiven:
We have enough American squads, but to say that the Harlem hellfighters didnt see much action is incorrect. They saw a ton of action, more so than many white units. Do your research before spouting nonsense.
only in late war. its not because they saw more action than the us marines that they saw much action compared to german and french units who fought on from the start of the war until the end.
Temujin Jan 5 @ 8:26am 
there's already enough british and american squads. i'm only in favour of new french squads.

technically though the indians could bring new equippment. indian cavalry would have the hotchkiss LMG goign for them as used by british cavalry. that gun already exists though in one of the current squads (inaccurately so). however you would have to replace one existing squad for them, which i'm not in favor of.

i'm however in favor of replacing the marines (one brigade) with buffalo soldiers (two divisions), but they used french equipment for most part as they fought with the french armies.

Originally posted by Yuithgf:
Originally posted by Bishop:
Germany similar case, lack of new content to add for them and they have all squad types.
i mean, devs could pull a senegalese and mix 2 squad types, as long as the squad plays different from what we have its fine. or make a new type, even if its exclusive to germany.

still has the weapon problem though, iirc the new weapons a german squad could get are:

-kar98 with trench mag
-diskushandgranate/kugelhandgranate impact nades
-dreyse pistol, walther model 4 and other pistols (but germany already has 2)
-nebelbombe ported from tannen?

its a little light, as most of these would only go to one role or two

those weapons were meant to improve weapon variety in current german squads by replacing weapons only used by rear echelon troops like the Kar88 and reichsrevolver. there's no option for a new german squad unless there's a new support call-in. and even then you'd need to add at least one new entente counterpart squad as well...
Yuithgf Jan 5 @ 8:35am 
devs said theyd add no cav units to verdun, and the hotchkiss wouldnt be new, we already played with it, we know what it is.

yeah i know tannen's cossaks are cav, but they made the mistake once lets not make em do it another time
Temujin Jan 5 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by Yuithgf:
devs said theyd add no cav units to verdun, and the hotchkiss wouldnt be new, we already played with it, we know what it is.

yeah i know tannen's cossaks are cav, but they made the mistake once lets not make em do it another time

oh, i absolutely don't want cavalry in this game or they would start giving them indian cavalry sabres as well for full tanneberg meme-ry. they technically never admitted on anything with the cossacks.

i tell you what i think went down: they one day visited the bruxelles war museum and saw the splendid parade(!) uniform of a cossack plastun officer there and immediately went "yeah, we got to have that in the game!", without actually bothering to check if they actually fought on the eastern front or not...
We'll just have to see, although new squads in Verdun would be great. It wouldn't matter if it is Central or Entente, the following squads were based on my opinion, good discussion nonetheless.
Originally posted by Yuithgf:
Originally posted by {O|G} ZeroFuqsGiven:
We have enough American squads, but to say that the Harlem hellfighters didnt see much action is incorrect. They saw a ton of action, more so than many white units. Do your research before spouting nonsense.
only in late war. its not because they saw more action than the us marines that they saw much action compared to german and french units who fought on from the start of the war until the end.

Does that really even matter? What difference does it make what year they entered the war. They saw a lot of action even though they didn't start arriving until 1917.
Originally posted by {O|G} ZeroFuqsGiven:
Originally posted by Yuithgf:
only in late war. its not because they saw more action than the us marines that they saw much action compared to german and french units who fought on from the start of the war until the end.

Does that really even matter? What difference does it make what year they entered the war. They saw a lot of action even though they didn't start arriving until 1917.

Clearly units that arrived in December 1917 (at the earliest, no US units arrived before December 1917) and didn't see action until the Spring of 1918 will have seen less combat than units that fought from the outbreak of war in 1914. That's just maths.
Originally posted by Cpl. Burden R 3294:
Originally posted by {O|G} ZeroFuqsGiven:

Does that really even matter? What difference does it make what year they entered the war. They saw a lot of action even though they didn't start arriving until 1917.

Clearly units that arrived in December 1917 (at the earliest, no US units arrived before December 1917) and didn't see action until the Spring of 1918 will have seen less combat than units that fought from the outbreak of war in 1914. That's just maths.

Yes clearly. But does it matter? No.
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