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X Mar 10 @ 1:55pm
Gun speed stats! (1 min shooting)
Here are some interesting fun stats about the guns in the game.
I wanted to see how many rounds you can shoot in 1 min with each of these guns.


RIFLES
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Using mags
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1. rsc 17 / rsc 18 : 45 rounds
2. smle (sawn-off) : 40 rounds
3. mousqueton berthier m16 : 35 rounds
4. gew 98 (trench mag) : 34 rounds
5. kar 88 : 31 rounds
6. smle / p14 / m1917 / springfield / ross / kar 98 / carabine 89 : 30 rounds
7. gew 88 / mauser 89 : 29 rounds
8. berthier senegalais / gew 98 : 28 rounds
9. berthier / mousqueton berthier : 27 rounds
10. lebel / lee-enfield mk1 : 24 rounds


Single-loading
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1. ross : 16 rounds
2. all other guns except ross, smle and tank-gew : 15 rounds
3. smle : 14 rounds
4. tank-gew : 10 rounds



PISTOLS
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1. luger (arty) : 141 rounds
2. mauser c96 : 90 rounds
3. ruby : 82 rounds
4. luger : 73 rounds
5. colt 1911 / fn m1900 / webley self-loading : 70 rounds



REVOLVERS
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1. webley-fosbery : 54 rounds
2. webley mk VI : 48 rounds
3. revolver 1892 : 36 rounds
4. reischrevolver : 18 rounds



MGs / MPs
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(calculated over 30 secs X 2, so the results are less precise)

1. bergman 1915 mg 15 : 364 rounds
2. mg 08/15 : 352 rounds
3. mg 08/18 : 346 rounds
4. lewis : 282 rounds
5. hotchkiss : 240 rounds
6. madsen : 224 rounds
7. mp18 : 198 rounds
8. bar / chauchat : 160 rounds
9. chauchat usa .30-06 : 128 rounds


OTHER
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trench gun : 25 rounds
Last edited by X; Mar 10 @ 6:13pm
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Gin Mar 10 @ 3:24pm 
Private, you're dismissed.

And you're lucky that the lieutenant didn't see you waste all that ammunition...
Interesting! Nice work!
X Mar 10 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by H.P.Lovecraft:
Interesting! Nice work!
Thanks!

I got the idea while playing squad defence, I was wondering how the p14 compares to the smle in terms of speed agaisnt endless waves of enemies!

The smle's 10 round mag is very useful if you have to face 10 enemies or less (before having time to reload), but when you are facing tons of enemies and need to reload several times you can see how the larger mag advantage is lost.

At that point the important part is how many rounds you can shoot per minute, and as you can see a lot of guns do just as well (or better) than the smle.

Interesting stuff indeed!
Last edited by X; Mar 10 @ 4:24pm
X Mar 10 @ 4:17pm 
Any results surprise you?
Yeah. The sawn off has felt slower then the SMLE to me in the past but I used it a few nights ago and it seemed faster firing. So maybe you are onto something here. Weird about the difference in the choo-choos!
X Mar 10 @ 10:05pm 
Originally posted by H.P.Lovecraft:
Yeah. The sawn off has felt slower then the SMLE to me in the past but I used it a few nights ago and it seemed faster firing. So maybe you are onto something here. Weird about the difference in the choo-choos!

I understand what you mean, there is quite a huge psychological aspect to all of this. The sawn-off shoots slower than the regular smle, but it reloads much, much faster.

The number of shots a mag holds, the speed of the reload, the speed of bolting, and more, are all factors that influence how fast we perceive the gun to be. But numbers don't like, and I used a timer for all of these.

A lot of people for instance feel that the best rifle is the smle because of is 10 round mag and it also has the second fastest manual bolting (first is the ross). But as you can see, many guns actually fire at the same overall speed.

I've also heard that the rsc's reload is so slow that using the gun is not worth it and you better stick with a bolt action rifle. It's obviously false, and granted that you still take your shots despite the huge temptation of firing like a maniac (because you can), it's the fastest rifle.

What's actually happening is having larger mags makes you feel secure, and a too long reload makes you feel like you're gonna get shot.
For instance I'm pretty sure a lot of people feel like the berthier senegalais is such a pain because it holds only 3 rounds, but would be more comfortable with a 5 round gew 98. Both actually fire the same number of rounds per minute, and if you play squad defence, picking one or the other is probably super similar as far as your chances to get shot -- if you stay calm.

I have been using the Reichsrevolver a lot lately. Still getting 50 to 100 kills a match on front line. You have to change your game play because of the reload though. If there are a lot of bots in game I die more because they move forward in waves. A lot of humans crawl! Cowards lol! If a lot of bots in game the SMLE is my gun of choice just because you can wipe out a wave before you have to reload.
Temujin Mar 11 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by X:
Any results surprise you?

yeah, the P14 and M1917 because the latter holds 6 rounds, but the last round is always reloaded manually. how come they still end up the same?
Yuithgf Mar 11 @ 1:57pm 
what surprises me is that the berthier rifle and carabine have the same number. i thought the mousqueton had more sway but fired faster
Aren't the Lebel and MLE (mk.1) both single-loading rifles? (They don't use en-bloc or stripper clips)

How can they have 24 then 15 rounds per minute? Or, better way to put it I suppose:

How did you calculate the Lebel and the MLE for the Mags section vs the Single-loading section? Is the Mags section more or less just mag-dumps then full reloads vs a single shot+reload? (Probably just answered my own question, oh well.)
Last edited by LV|Ironstorm767; Mar 11 @ 2:12pm
X Mar 12 @ 7:17pm 
Originally posted by Temujin:
Originally posted by X:
Any results surprise you?

yeah, the P14 and M1917 because the latter holds 6 rounds, but the last round is always reloaded manually. how come they still end up the same?

Not exactly sure, but those are the results! lol

If you want more details :
the m1917 = 5 mags of 6 rounds over 1 minute
the p14 = 6 mags of 5 over 1 minute

Originally posted by Yuithgf:
what surprises me is that the berthier rifle and carabine have the same number. i thought the mousqueton had more sway but fired faster

Yes that surprised me too. They probably have different bolting time and reload times but in the end it comes out the same over 1 minute.


Originally posted by LV|Ironstorm767:
Aren't the Lebel and MLE (mk.1) both single-loading rifles? (They don't use en-bloc or stripper clips)

How can they have 24 then 15 rounds per minute? Or, better way to put it I suppose:

How did you calculate the Lebel and the MLE for the Mags section vs the Single-loading section? Is the Mags section more or less just mag-dumps then full reloads vs a single shot+reload? (Probably just answered my own question, oh well.)

Single-loading is putting 1 round at a time and then firing it.
I used manual bolt option, shooting 1 round and reloading as fast as possible.
Obviously I couldn't do that with guns that use enblocs.

It simulates a magazine cut-off, I know lot of these guns don't have any but the results give you an indication of the speed of the reload when using 1 round at a time instead of stripper clips. Good to know if you play rifle death match and want a bayonet instead of a stripper clip.
i mean to be fair this is pretty useless but ok
Wilson Mar 13 @ 2:42am 
Very nice stuff, it is interesting to see where people's expectations and reality meet up or diverge.

@im moving house - not really adding much to the conversation there...
Last edited by Wilson; Mar 13 @ 2:42am
Did you take in consideration that high level squads have faster reloading speed?
X Mar 16 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Lilifee the cute fairy:
Did you take in consideration that high level squads have faster reloading speed?

I did most the tests in RDM / attrition, except things like trench mag I did in squad def.
I did all tests alone.
Last edited by X; Mar 16 @ 10:37am
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