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No chance for newbies in this game
Frustrating for newbies. No chance to play. Spwan, shot after 2 seconds without seeing an enemy. And that again and again. A beginner protection would be desirable so that you can learn the game and do not lose interest in it at the beginning.
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There are some players who tend to spawncamp, ok.


But in general you should try to follow some simple rules. (I know beginners do not listen to long time players, but I still will spend some time.)


Do not stand around in the open. Do not crawl in NML. Run or seek cover, nothing else.

As a beginner you need more time if you look to NML for seeing enemies approaching. But still do not look too long.

If you spawn behind the trench. Choosing not the direct way back into the trench is most times safer. Spawncampers focus on the direct way. And the crowd of spawning players chooses the direct way. So the spawncampers focus on them and do not look at you, the single player running elsewhere. Maybe you first move a little bit backwards. Follow the trench in parallel (in a protected and safe area) and reenter into the trench elsewhere / in a safer area.

Fighting inside the trench. Do not simply follow the trench. One single soldier could defend this. Try to flank, leave the trench, pass the enemies outside and try to reenter behind them.

Use the minimap. There you see, where your allies are. And, more important, you can see where they are not. If no allie there, you can expect enemies are in there, in the trench.
On the map you see for every killed allie a skull appearing. If you see at a certain spot skulls appearing again and again. Simply avoid this spot, do not move there. Easy, right?

Change your position. Just yesterday I saw a Gunner who mounted his MG at a spot. He was sniped, returned and got sniped again. This whole thing happened 5 times. If a spot does not work, look for another one.

Try to listen to more XP players.

Try to increase your FPS (for example play on "low" resolution, not "ultra"). After buying a new computer and doubling my FPS, my K/D ratio strongly improved.
Haui666 Feb 1 @ 2:31am 
thx
just a bad match, you get that from time to time.

when you are pushing the line run from one hole to another, not straight to the frontline.
when you are defending,run to the frontline and do peak-a-boo shooting.

since this game uses 1 hit torso kills on all weapons, you have to use your eyes and situational awareness more then twitch reflexes.

if you find a full human server hard, you can allways join a less populated one as there are AI there that you can train on.
Wilson Feb 7 @ 5:10am 
Really nice advice from Lilifee!

You can also start private matches with AI only if you want to practice with different weapons/squads and learn the map layouts. Just bear in mind that real players will fight very differently to bots, and you'll still need to learn the most common routes + positions used by real players to be most effective in multiplayer, so being good vs AI != being good in MP, but learning the maps is very handy since then you're not trying to navigate around while also in the middle of a pitched battle :D

I think a lot of the time new players think that veterans have superhuman abilities, when they just have so much experience that they can predict where enemies are likely to appear, attack from unusual angles, and otherwise outmaneuver opponents.

Lilifee's point about not returning to the same place you were killed before and avoiding points on the minimap where a lot of allies are dying is excellent advice. It's also why you should move around regularly even from good shooting spots - eventually someone you kill is going to figure out where you were and come back - and they will kill you if you haven't moved at all.
The same thing happens to veterans it's just luck
mechafi Feb 7 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by Wilson:
I think a lot of the time new players think that veterans have superhuman abilities, when they just have so much experience that they can predict where enemies are likely to appear, attack from unusual angles, and otherwise outmaneuver opponents.

I consider myself to be an average player as I grew up playing lots Tribes, Quake TF, early CS and DoD back in the day but have long since been a casual player playing many different genres. What is really intriguing in Verdun (and Tannenberg) is the fact that no two sessions feel and play alike. Sometimes, even though I don't by no means know every map like the back of my hand, I manage to find lots of positions overlooked by everyone that just happen to have a perfect (and unusual, like you said) vista for killing and I can easily pop 50 or 60 enemies in one match. Some of them no doubt think I'm aimbotting after some "impossible" shots!

Then, just today, I ended up with maybe 12 kills and 30 deaths in one match. Every darn mortar shell landed on me! Every time me and 5 other fellas hasted towards the next trench, an invisible enemy shot me, and just me! Behind every corpse there was guy prone with an MP18 or just as I turned around, someone put a Böker knife in my back! And there was nothing I could do about it. Every dog has its day.

I too recommend trying the game out with bots first. Learning a bit about the maps and the gear helps a lot.
Go MG , find a nice position that has good concealment and a zone of fire where the enemy has trouble spotting you, cover is optional, support your friends and have fun ! prone is essential for this.
Originally posted by moderncaveman87:
Go MG , find a nice position that has good concealment and a zone of fire where the enemy has trouble spotting you, cover is optional, support your friends and have fun ! prone is essential for this.
if you want to stay bad, do this.
Groot Feb 8 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by moderncaveman87:
Go MG , find a nice position that has good concealment and a zone of fire where the enemy has trouble spotting you, cover is optional, support your friends and have fun ! prone is essential for this.
Do this if you never ever want to get good and use it to annoy people.
Last edited by Groot; Feb 8 @ 4:12pm
Originally posted by moderncaveman87:
Go MG , find a nice position that has good concealment and a zone of fire where the enemy has trouble spotting you, cover is optional, support your friends and have fun ! prone is essential for this.

Beginners playing as gunners are easy prey. They do not know where and how to mount the MG, so I usually kill them before they are able to fire one shot.
Bots has been added for a long time, you may need to try to join some match with fewer players.
In the old days, without bots, it's truely horrible for new players.
The big difference I find between new and old players is reaction timing. As someone who loves going for melee kills in the trench, I can often serpentine past new players to get a stab or bash on them, but older ones will either predict it and shoot me or counter melee first.

Then there's gunners. An experienced, good gunner is the biggest pain in the ♥♥♥♥ you can possibly encounter. They'll be set up somewhere you can't see them, with a Hotchkiss, Chauchat or Bergmann (as one of these people, they're my favourite MG's), and just be shredding your line. On the other hand, an inexperienced gunner leaves you effectively a man down. The gunner mechanics for setting up your MG are sometimes awful and very glitchy (and can be exploited; tilt up when reloading Chauchat to become invincible whilst reloading). They'll constantly set up in the open and be shot by a rifleman immediately. They might also be using the MG16 or MG18 with the awful recoil or the poorly sighted Lewis. Or they might try auto firing the BAR. That's a mistake. The BAR is the best semi auto weapon in the game.

The class I recommend they go with is Grenadier. It's not too hard on a full server to get some kills with a grenade every life. I'd argue it can take less skill than gunning or rifling. The Senegalese, with their ability to spawn on anyone but also having grenades, are the most new player friendly classes, especially with how user-friendly the French rifles are.
Originally posted by Islam:
especially with how user-friendly the French rifles are.

I share your thoughts. But one comment regarding the French rifles. I think the 3-shooters are not good for beginners. They are more busy with reloading than shooting enemies.
youll get used to this game eventually its absolute mayhem u will die alot

if u havnt already noticed there is gunfire everywhere so keep ur head down lad move from cover to cover and if u see enemy do not hesitate to kill as they will give u no mercy also there is no where to hide





welcome to the western front
welcome to hell on earth
Originally posted by Lilifee the cute fairy:
Originally posted by Islam:
especially with how user-friendly the French rifles are.

I share your thoughts. But one comment regarding the French rifles. I think the 3-shooters are not good for beginners. They are more busy with reloading than shooting enemies.


take one with bayonet and grenades if u reall y wanna take it but yeah better off with more bullets in magazine
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