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A brief statement on Level 90+ Players and ranked Matchmaking
Verdun is an overall easy game. Every weapon is easy to use, with some exceptions. Almost every weapon one hits, and if it doesn't, the rate of fire makes up for it. And even though I consider myself joe average, there are some points when I look like a complete noob, this is through very high level players, who know every spot of every map, and know exactly what you're doing with their special X-Ray vision that Level 100 grants them. And there are a lot of those out there. I want to say something like 45% of all players are Level 90+, of course players of this level are extremely good at the game, which has some consequences. Average and below average players suffer under the domination high levels bring to the battlefield. If the level 100's are on the enemy team, prepare to be rofl stomped, as you will be spawnkilled every other spawn, snapshoted around corners as if they have wall hacks, sniped when you thought you were completely safe, and completely overwhelmed when they rush you with SMLE's or some other rapid fire rifle.
However, if you have the high levels on your team, most likely you'll win, but you'll get no kills at all. The high levels will dominate the battlefield so much, you will be running around the trenches waiting for an enemy to breach, until you realize no enemy is going to breach because the high levels are completely destroying the enemy team. You come out with 6 or 10 kills, while the high levels come out with 20-30, or even 50-60 if they're on a good day.
Point is, it's not fun. No matter what team they are on, people are having their Verdun experience ruined, because players are simply too good at the game. Of course, there is no system in Verdun that can fix this, unless they introduce matchmaking seperated by player level. Introduce matchmaking, you have much more noob-friendlier games, and more of a chance for people to gradually increase in skill, rather than get utterly anihilated when a Level 100 get's his hands on an MP18. I do like the fact that I get to choose what map I play on with what players, but no matter where I go, there's always that one Level 100 with 35 kills, and 20 of those are me.

Am I salty, yes, am I fed up with it, yes, will I become Level 100, probably never at this rate.
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KoRv Sep 5, 2017 @ 8:42pm 
While I would love to see ranked matches there simply isn't enough players playing the game to make that work.

Then we have the whole thingy that ranking shouldn't be done based on the player level.
This is because as long as you have the time and are willing to put in the hours, it's impossible to fail to reach lvl 100 as the leveling is XP based. It may take you 50 hrs or 1000 hrs but you will eventually always get there. That's why you shouldn't and can't put every lvl 100 player in the same category. It may have taken Players A 50 hrs to reach lvl 100 and Player B 700 hrs. That means that player A was able to get alot more XP per game than Player B. You mainly get alot of XP from games if you're getting alot of kills (and push to capture trenches) as that gives you normally alot of medals.
acur1231 Sep 5, 2017 @ 11:21pm 
I am level 100 and I am terrible. It could be because of my 300+ Ping all the time, but level 100s still die very often. They are flesh and blood. Very often even when I am playing with the DM squad with 6-7 level 100s were still cannot win, or we win by a single trench.
Hans Sep 6, 2017 @ 1:54am 
The game will still always lean towards the defenders advantage. Good 100 players wont always guarantee you a win. Just like a team of greens will not always mean you lose. Some maps having them is a detriment where the defenders advantage isnt as great. But you can see maybe 1-2 100s vs all decent level players still tie on maps such as the Somme etc because of how hard the map is.

Plus most high level players prefer Germans ive noticed(not sure why) so you can always swap sides if it concerns you that much
B@NG Sep 6, 2017 @ 5:34am 
If you use communication and have players who are willing to listen the chances are that your team will do better LVL 100 doesn't necessary mean your a good player just means you have been putting the time in. I've got lots of hours but I'm an average player compared to a lot of the elite sadley some of the very best don't play any more
PanicButton Sep 6, 2017 @ 5:37am 
The only way to get better is to play against a better opponent :)

I'm a humble bundle noob around lvl20-25. I get killed a lot, but so do the lvl100s as far as I can see. They might have more hours in the game, but that doesn't man anything if your squad/team coordinates actions.

The only guaranteed advantage they have is knowing the maps...probably.
biggalloot Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:08am 
i agree with others that personal Level100 does not necessarily designate more skill than somebody Level25.
on the other hand, squad Level100 has too many benefits not to be better than squad Level25 in all but rare cases.
Last edited by biggalloot; Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:08am
Ubernanos | ENC 2018 (Banned) Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:24am 
The only way to get better is to play against a better opponent :)

Thats the main problem with new Verdun players. They just stop when they get ♥♥♥♥♥ by good players, as if those guys became good by magic. I sometimes realize how it must be painful for a new player to play against us. But i was ♥♥♥ kicked when i started, as anyone. I just took the time to learn the game, maps, mechanics and such. Verdun is a game you have to play a bit, and learn useful tips, to master.
Last edited by Ubernanos | ENC 2018; Sep 6, 2017 @ 6:25am
Originally posted by Von Salomon:
The only way to get better is to play against a better opponent :)

Thats the main problem with new Verdun players. They just stop when they get ♥♥♥♥♥ by good players, as if those guys became good by magic. I sometimes realize how it must be painful for a new player to play against us. But i was ♥♥♥ kicked when i started, as anyone. I just took the time to learn the game, maps, mechanics and such. Verdun is a game you have to play a bit, and learn useful tips, to master.
Buts that's to hard for most people. They want everything spoon feed to them on a golden spoon. They don't want to actually put the hard time into playing something, that would take actual effort, no I'd rather go complain about things I don't like rather than man up and do ♥♥♥♥!

Sadly this is what is happening with Verduns newest generation of players. They all aren't putting in the effort into actually trying to play the game and rather, complaining about all the challenges they have to go through to get better. Quite sad really
Most level 100s aren't particularly good at the game, they just played a long time. But their skills plateaued long before they got that number beside their name.

It's true there is a small minority of players who'll trash an entire enemy team by themselves, like Zab, and it's true that these people are not fun to play with or against. Believe me, us regular level 100s don't like playing with these people either.

Player level isn't the issue. The real issue is that this game has such a small community that you run into the top tier players a lot more often than you would in a more populated game.
Originally posted by {BENIS} j4rppi:
Originally posted by ϟϟ what am i doing ϟϟ:
Most level 100s aren't particularly good at the game, they just played a long time. But their skills plateaued long before they got that number beside their name.

It's true there is a small minority of players who'll trash an entire enemy team by themselves, like Zab, and it's true that these people are not fun to play with or against. Believe me, us regular level 100s don't like playing with these people either.

Player level isn't the issue. The real issue is that this game has such a small community that you run into the top tier players a lot more often than you would in a more populated game.
Why is playing against zab bad? you actually might learn a thing or two about the game then

There's not really anything left to learn, it's just a matter of reflexes past a certain point.
Abu Hajaar Sep 6, 2017 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by ϟϟ what am i doing ϟϟ:
Originally posted by {BENIS} j4rppi:
Why is playing against zab bad? you actually might learn a thing or two about the game then

There's not really anything left to learn, it's just a matter of reflexes past a certain point.
that's the truth.

almost no one has the time to sink in 2,000 hours into a game like certain good players have. people buy the game and expect that, after a few hours of learning the game, they'll be able to play without getting ♥♥♥♥♥ by far more experienced players. at least that is how it should be.
Axman Sep 6, 2017 @ 4:52pm 
What makes it fun is that it's hard. That's the point.
Originally posted by √(π) Memesmarine:
You'd be surprised how much of his playstyle is actual decision-making

I wouldn't be surprised, actually, since I'm familiar with this playstyle and understand what's going on. I use it myself. But once you understand that and are playing the game "intelligently" as it were, it becomes purely about reflexes. Yes, the top players all know where to place themselves on the map, anticipate the flow of enemies and where people will be, etc. Among the players who're all doing that, the last deciding factor in victory is who has the lowest reaction time.
Originally posted by Abu Hajaar:
Originally posted by ϟϟ what am i doing ϟϟ:

There's not really anything left to learn, it's just a matter of reflexes past a certain point.
that's the truth.

almost no one has the time to sink in 2,000 hours into a game like certain good players have. people buy the game and expect that, after a few hours of learning the game, they'll be able to play without getting ♥♥♥♥♥ by far more experienced players. at least that is how it should be.
Oh stop that bs. Most people buy a game to have fun, not for the most plain game every like minecraft. That's one of the only games I know of that pretty much everyone has the same skill and the game keeps it like that
Abu Hajaar Sep 7, 2017 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by X-1stMN Pvt. Hans (Queen Luna):
Originally posted by Abu Hajaar:
that's the truth.

almost no one has the time to sink in 2,000 hours into a game like certain good players have. people buy the game and expect that, after a few hours of learning the game, they'll be able to play without getting ♥♥♥♥♥ by far more experienced players. at least that is how it should be.
Oh stop that bs. Most people buy a game to have fun, not for the most plain game every like minecraft. That's one of the only games I know of that pretty much everyone has the same skill and the game keeps it like that
what bs? it's true that people buy the game to have fun. but it's hard to have fun when there is such a skill gap. new players who stick around for more than a few hours and aren't gamer gods find themselves often curbstomped by those who have sunk 2,000 hours in. virtually no one has that much time to put into a game.

no one is asking for all to have the same skill, rather people are suggesting making the skill gap less dramatic.
Last edited by Abu Hajaar; Sep 7, 2017 @ 1:29pm
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