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simonmd 13 Jul, 2016 @ 12:46pm
New GWR Star Class
This looks rather nice I have to say and its by 'Skyhook' who do a quality job (OBB1044, Class 58). I know non steam people will think it looks like all the other stuff on the Riviera line but would be interesting to hear any running reports.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/376952/
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Cat 13 Jul, 2016 @ 1:07pm 
Looks good and if it's the same quality of the others that came with the Riviera then it should be good. I wasn't a fan of the GWR locos, seen one you've seen em all, but they have an aesthetic appeal. Sigh, another one for the wish list.
cathyhowat 13 Jul, 2016 @ 1:27pm 
YEs, this is one I really want. The STAR class was THE express loco on the GWR in it's day, and the precursor to the Saints, and the other 4-6-0 loco, in fact some STARS were altered to SAINTS
Viper 13 Jul, 2016 @ 1:49pm 
Looks, runs and sounds nice. They've captured the soot covered paintwork just righr. Can't find the manual where I expected to, maybe it,s under a different name or they just didn't issue one. I think some people may need one.
Sultan6543 13 Jul, 2016 @ 2:20pm 
Some Stars were rebuilt as Castles not Saints. Saint David of the Saint class was rebuilt as the first Hall and GWS is rebuilding a Hall as a Saint class as 2999 Lady of Legend.
7817 13 Jul, 2016 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by cathyhowat:
...The STAR class was THE express loco on the GWR in it's day, and the precursor to the Saints...

Not so, Cathyhowat. The 'Saint' class predated the 'Star' class by 4 years - being introduced in 1902. The first 'Star' was built in 1906.
cathyhowat 13 Jul, 2016 @ 4:51pm 
Sorry 7817, U R right
RolandBP 13 Jul, 2016 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by Viper:
Looks, runs and sounds nice. They've captured the soot covered paintwork just righr. Can't find the manual where I expected to, maybe it,s under a different name or they just didn't issue one. I think some people may need one.
The manual is under: SHG GWR Star manual. and if you are typing in for the scenarios then type in "Star".
Further it is an awesome loco, right up there with the locos that came with the "Riviera in the Fifties" route. Lots of mean sounds in the two scenarios I have played so far. :steamhappy:
RolandBP 13 Jul, 2016 @ 9:16pm 
One thing I discovered in the manual is wrong, is the instruction to open the small ejector "J", it does not work unless you open the large ejector and the command for that is not in the manual, so press "P", or you cannot release your brakes.
Well that's how it is in "Realistic" mode.
I have sent a "Ticket" to DTG on this error.
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Budge4 14 Jul, 2016 @ 12:56am 
One thing thats cropped up was about the 4000gal tender, apparently that wasnt used until 1938 by which time most of the Stars had been withdrawan. So i can see that using the 4000gal tender for 2 or 3 of the Stars that went past 1938 would be fine but not for the Stars that were withdrawn before 1938. Im not 100% sure about that, so fine if someone corrects me, im sure there must be a 3500gal GWR tender knocking around in TS somewhere anyway :)
RolandBP 14 Jul, 2016 @ 1:27am 
Oh that's interesting, maybe if not on TS then maybe on UKTS. I must pop over to their forums.
simonmd 14 Jul, 2016 @ 8:08am 
Just seen Matt's quick play through showing this off and WOW!! Not the loco, although that looks good but the AI is INCREDIBLE!!! Just go watch it, its amazing to see and hear so much stuffed into it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHpjbjKyQTQ

Not only are the scenarios apparently of superior quality to the usual average DTG ones, but you get 4 career instead of 3 too, well done Skyhook.
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Budge4 14 Jul, 2016 @ 11:41pm 
Yes it does look impressive Simon, you see those kind of scenarios and it does show up DTG's generally poor scenarios included with DLC doesnt it. Shows what a bit of effort can produce.
RolandBP 15 Jul, 2016 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by Budge4:
One thing thats cropped up was about the 4000gal tender, apparently that wasnt used until 1938 by which time most of the Stars had been withdrawan. So i can see that using the 4000gal tender for 2 or 3 of the Stars that went past 1938 would be fine but not for the Stars that were withdrawn before 1938. Im not 100% sure about that, so fine if someone corrects me, im sure there must be a 3500gal GWR tender knocking around in TS somewhere anyway :)
Hi Matey, I have just taken a look for some 3,500 gal tenders and you can get one from the Grange loco on the Riviera in the Fifties route or maybe one of those that come with the Just Trains Manor class packs will do it {That is if they are compatable?}
If you need it for the workshop, you will need to use the "Grange version".
Chicken Balti 15 Jul, 2016 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by RolandBP:
One thing I discovered in the manual is wrong, is the instruction to open the small ejector "J", it does not work unless you open the large ejector and the command for that is not in the manual, so press "P", or you cannot release your brakes.
Well that's how it is in "Realistic" mode.
I have sent a "Ticket" to DTG on this error.
Hello Roland, the small ejector is used only to 'maintain vacuum' once 'created' by the large ejector, the large ejector is used to create vacuum quickly and then turned off, for instance before departure or at any point when a fast release of the train brake is required.
The smaller 20mm and larger 25mm ejector can both be turned of at speeds above 20mph to save steam and allow the mechanical 'Vacuum Pump' fitted to all GWR and ex-GWR engines to 'maintain vacuum' instead.
There is rather more to the 'GWR Combination Drivers Brake Valve' train brake than I have high lighted here involving the engine only 'Steam Brake', but it is not scripted in most TS2016 Western Engines DLC.
Hope that helps.
Regards.
7817 15 Jul, 2016 @ 5:13am 
Originally posted by Budge4:
One thing thats cropped up was about the 4000gal tender, apparently that wasnt used until 1938 by which time most of the Stars had been withdrawan. So i can see that using the 4000gal tender for 2 or 3 of the Stars that went past 1938 would be fine but not for the Stars that were withdrawn before 1938...

I cannot let Budge4's post pass without comment as what he states simply is not true.

There were 73 'Star' class locos built in total, 5 of which were rebuilt as 'Castle' class engines in the 1920s. 10 more (4063 - 4072) were similarly rebuilt between 1937 and the outbreak of WW2 in 1940.

That leaves 58 locos that were not converted to 'Castles' and of those, 48 were still in service after 1938. In fact, all bar one of those 48 (4014, which was scrapped in 1946) survived to enter British Railways' stock upon Nationalisation in 1948. Just 10 (of the earlier build of locos) were withdrawn in the 1930s.

So to refer to the "2 or 3 that went past 1938" is incorrect and is distorting historical facts.
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