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ImMobile Jun 16, 2016 @ 9:42am
Uber izaro terrible endgame.
I almost get one shot with the following stats:

45k armor
6khp, 2k es
capped resist
leech back to full life in less than 2 seconds

If the first hit doesnt kill me a following hit always does.

The problem with this type of endgame content is that enjoyment in videogames is based on risk/reward. GGG you have the risk at about a 10 and the reward here is at about a 2.

You should at LEAST make the lab leading up to him similar to the difficulty of the boss fight. Right now it appears as if you just want people to die given the vast difference between the boss encounter it took you 5-10 minutes to reach (assuming you rushed knowing the chances of dying on the boss were high). I can not IMAGINE if someone sat down and fully explored the lab taking 30-45 minutes to reach the boss encouter only to be greeted with that total♥♥♥♥♥♥of an expierence.

I guess if you guys want to continue to cater to the 2% of players that have traded their way into power for endgame but yet advertise it like it's there for everyone then by all means continue, but it makes for a pretty terrible expierence and I have over 1000 hours logged playing. I'm just done jumping through hoops. My character is totally self found and I feel like I'm constantly being punished for actually playing the game instead of trading to improve my character.
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-=Azrael=- Jun 16, 2016 @ 10:34am 
Maybe your build is just crap? I've done Uber Izaro today with only 4,9k Life and 4000 Armor, strange. But yeah he hits hard and i don't trade at all.
ImMobile Jun 16, 2016 @ 11:16am 
Maybe you're also a terrible liar. Also had a guy in chat I met up with to duel. We were talking about the fight. He has 25k armor, 78/78 spell and normal block with ES refresh as well as 6k hp/capped resist and he's getting one shot as well. thanks for commenting.. I guess?
-=Azrael=- Jun 16, 2016 @ 11:24am 
Here feel free to browse my profile, currently i have only one Char with 8 Asc. points.
And I do not care with whom you chat or not, noob.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Mordad

Battleseed Jun 16, 2016 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by ImMobile:
Maybe you're also a terrible liar. Also had a guy in chat I met up with to duel. We were talking about the fight. He has 25k armor, 78/78 spell and normal block with ES refresh as well as 6k hp/capped resist and he's getting one shot as well. thanks for commenting.. I guess?
All that means is that you met someone else with no idea how to do the fight and had a pity party. Shows nothing other than both of you still have to learn that fight.

Simple...don't stand there like a dip and let him punch you in the face. All his attacks are telegraphed. If you play melee with something like multistrike (that pins you in place) your doing it wrong. The lady's barrage is easy to avoid as well.
Last edited by Battleseed; Jun 18, 2016 @ 11:09am
King Hadu Jun 16, 2016 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by -=Azrael=-:
Here feel free to browse my profile, currently i have only one Char with 8 Asc. points.
And I do not care with whom you chat or not, noob.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Mordad

Even though Azrael could be lying and he could have been carried, I am of the belief he can be trusted. I never bothered with ubber because I am using scion and the 2 extra points on her is pretty useless due to how her skill tree is setup.

I would not however trust that "battleseed" guy and I suggest you keep away from him. He constantly trolls this forum accusing others of trolling. That kid is like a double trolling dualios trollios
Last edited by King Hadu; Jun 16, 2016 @ 2:51pm
Coldburg Jun 17, 2016 @ 12:38am 
You can't do self-found in this game and expect to do endgame lab. You have to trade. That's just a fact of PoE. You're willfully handicapping yourself. If you think you "shouldn't have to trade to do endgame," I disagree because if you could get geared for endgame self-found then the trade economy would be♥♥♥♥♥♥ This is a lively game with a lot of players and tools to make trading easy. Just do it, or accept that your struggle is self-inflicted.
Last edited by Coldburg; Jun 17, 2016 @ 12:44am
-=Azrael=- Jun 17, 2016 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by Gorilla Warfare:
You can't do self-found in this game and expect to do endgame lab. You have to trade. That's just a fact of PoE. You're willfully handicapping yourself. If you think you "shouldn't have to trade to do endgame," I disagree because if you could get geared for endgame self-found then the trade economy would be♥♥♥♥♥♥ This is a lively game with a lot of players and tools to make trading easy. Just do it, or accept that your struggle is self-inflicted.

If you can not beat the grind the grind beats you!
I'm 100% selffound. I've done even the same mistake i always do with my discharger facetank @bosses.... And yes Uber Izaro hits for 5-6k so facetanking is a bad idea. But with the right build you can do it. Just have a look here PVP build with 18k dps and 14k Life vs Uber Izaro.

https://youtu.be/eKwyDksEjEQ
Coldburg Jun 17, 2016 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by -=Azrael=-:
Originally posted by Gorilla Warfare:
You can't do self-found in this game and expect to do endgame lab. You have to trade. That's just a fact of PoE. You're willfully handicapping yourself. If you think you "shouldn't have to trade to do endgame," I disagree because if you could get geared for endgame self-found then the trade economy would be♥♥♥♥♥♥ This is a lively game with a lot of players and tools to make trading easy. Just do it, or accept that your struggle is self-inflicted.

If you can not beat the grind the grind beats you!
I'm 100% selffound. I've done even the same mistake i always do with my discharger facetank @bosses.... And yes Uber Izaro hits for 5-6k so facetanking is a bad idea. But with the right build you can do it. Just have a look here PVP build with 18k dps and 14k Life vs Uber Izaro.

https://youtu.be/eKwyDksEjEQ
Saw it. Still waiting on that build video.

Perhaps with a particular build you could go self-found, but most builds can't. It's a handicap. The drop rates are too low, you'd have to farm so much longer than it would take to simply trade.
Last edited by Coldburg; Jun 17, 2016 @ 9:58am
-=Azrael=- Jun 17, 2016 @ 10:34am 
You can be sure that he won't post his entire build because he's using it in pvp.

Selffound takes longer yes but at least you do everthing on your own and it is more challenging than the item flipping game.
King Hadu Jun 17, 2016 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by -=Azrael=-:
You can be sure that he won't post his entire build because he's using it in pvp.

Selffound takes longer yes but at least you do everthing on your own and it is more challenging than the item flipping game.

Self found only works in D3 because its BOA so the drops are tuned much better.

its unrelaistic to say play self found in POE the game was not designed for that. I don't think any normal person is going to play 3000 hours of POE to find items to make a build that would be a bit pointless. Not to mention due to RNG you would end up playing 8000 hours and still not have a decent build.
Last edited by King Hadu; Jun 17, 2016 @ 1:12pm
Wheeshnaw Jun 17, 2016 @ 1:20pm 
I took him down last night with 4400 HP and a 1K ES pool (that was down for everything but initial hits). That said, some builds just can't do him solo, primarily evasion/life based characters. If you are dying to him with armor, your build might have serious problems.

A big part of killing him is single target DPS. My self-cast discharger can literally sit in the arena AFK and tank uber Izaro's hits because it has so much armor, life, and life regen, but its single target DPS is not good enough to make a fight with him viable.

If you really need to, get a friend or guildie to help carry you through the lab. Some of my guildies have builds that make Uber Izaro so trivial that they set up 6-man carry parties and solo the fight with 6-man HP. If you don't know someone who will let you tag along, try buying a carry.

The uber Lab is meant to be a serious challenge, in line with Atziri and such. The fight itself is actually quite simple once you've learned it, but you need to have the DPS and surivivability to complete it (I personally think the fight is just a bit above the difficulty of normal Atziri)
Coldburg Jun 17, 2016 @ 1:22pm 
It don't consider farming RNG to be any more challenging than playing the lottery. Playing self-found is considerably more challenging, but if you take it to the forums about how frustrated you are, maybe you aren't looking for that kind of challenge. I know I'm not, it's just unnecessary. It's masochism, frankly.
Last edited by Coldburg; Jun 17, 2016 @ 1:28pm
Coldburg Jun 17, 2016 @ 1:34pm 
There's some strategy to the uber lab, for those of us who can't facetank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5GA3csJdCY
iLLmore Jun 17, 2016 @ 8:53pm 
you don't trade hits with any boss. Hell, if it was for your logic why not let you get hit by map vaal pyramid boss? Why would u stack 45k armor anyway? You're over armor cap. Stacking armor is not a good idea, look up how armor physical damage mitigation works/evasion. You'll see is not the same as every game.
Last edited by iLLmore; Jun 17, 2016 @ 9:00pm
vakori Jun 18, 2016 @ 10:43am 
I didn't have a problem with Izaro with my "kind of glass cannon sword crit cyclone duelist". Izaro is slow as ♥♥♥♥, just dodge his major attacks (with leap slam, flame dash, etc.) and attack when he's busy taunting or shooting in the wrong direction and you finished him, EZ.

For the record, I have 3933 health, 1819 armour (15% reduction), 5254 evasion (34% to evade), 46% dodge (30% spells), capped res and 700k dps. No problem at all, I downed Izaro in a few seconds. If you don't believe me, wait a few days and I'll make video when I rush my friends.
Last edited by vakori; Jun 18, 2016 @ 10:46am
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