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Why did they name a woman leif?
leif = male name, and there has been plenty of leif names:

Thorleif
Torleif
Veleif
Isleif
Leif
Oleif
Orleif
etc

Now, I understand that if your not scandinavian you might not be bothered, but to name a viking woman a viking male name is just... sloppy.

I mean, how would you non scandinavians feel if a woman, lets say, was named Steven.
and the game was about revolutionary soldiers in the 1700.
Now I understand its a saga based losely on scandinavian folklore and lots of fantasy, but couldnt you ask someone with scandinavian heritage before using viking names on wrong genders?

Also I found this name

"Ludin"

My last name is Lodin, my friend is named Flodin and my other friend is named Modin.
The "din" name was created in the 1600, when farmers was forced to get a last name when drafting into the army, so for ex if you came from Sundby village you would get last name Sundin etc.

Well, nvm im not gonna flame and be an ass, I just wish someone had helped them a bit :) thats all.
Last edited by [NGNS-SWE] ⚡ Quezkatolen ⚡; Jun 27, 2014 @ 3:14pm
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Sohei Jun 27, 2014 @ 3:42pm 
In the game she says that her father was expecting or wanted a boy. That is how she got her name.
Last edited by Sohei; Jun 27, 2014 @ 3:43pm
Ailes Jun 27, 2014 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by Sohei:
In the game she says that her father was expecting or wanted a boy. That is how she got her name.
This. You may not have seen this yourself, OP, as Oddleiff may leave or die before she mentions that (not sure, as I have only one playthrough).
Last edited by Ailes; Jun 27, 2014 @ 5:43pm
Raudskjor Jun 27, 2014 @ 6:46pm 
She said that after her husband's death while she was wondering what does it mean to be a strong woman. It's a key event through the storyline.

:Dredge:

Aleonymous Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:35am 
Originally posted by QuezcatoL - Captain Hindsight!:
"Oddleif" -- leif = male name

That choice has been explained in-game.

Originally posted by QuezcatoL - Captain Hindsight!:
"Ludin" -- The "din" name was created in the 1600, when farmers was forced to get a last name when drafting into the army

So, you mean that this name suffix (-din) is not appropriate for a person who is supposed to be a nobleman/high-class/prince?
Last edited by Aleonymous; Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:35am
Originally posted by Aleonymous:
Originally posted by QuezcatoL - Captain Hindsight!:
"Oddleif" -- leif = male name

That choice has been explained in-game.

Originally posted by QuezcatoL - Captain Hindsight!:
"Ludin" -- The "din" name was created in the 1600, when farmers was forced to get a last name when drafting into the army

So, you mean that this name suffix (-din) is not appropriate for a person who is supposed to be a nobleman/high-class/prince?

im saying that the name typ:
Lodin,Flodin,Ledin,Lundin, etc is a common Swedish name but it was created in the 1600 during the 30-year war, so they probably took a scandinavian name and thought it had something to do with vikings as well.

And no, it wasnt noble- it was a warrior/soldier name. A name tied into a village that was enlisted for war. ofc you could also be the leader in that village and get the name... but that would be just for a big rich farmer.
Last edited by [NGNS-SWE] ⚡ Quezkatolen ⚡; Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:41am
Aleonymous Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by QuezcatoL - Captain Hindsight!:
they probably took a scandinavian name and thought it had something to do with vikings as well.

Oh, ok, I now see your point. Well, some names where just picked for their sonority! For example, Alette and Rook have nothing to do with vikings either. It's not like they wanted to do a historic game; they just drew some inspiration from the viking/scandinavian culture.
Originally posted by Aleonymous:
Originally posted by QuezcatoL - Captain Hindsight!:
they probably took a scandinavian name and thought it had something to do with vikings as well.

Oh, ok, I now see your point. Well, some names where just picked for their sonority! For example, Alette and Rook have nothing to do with vikings either. It's not like they wanted to do a historic game; they just drew some inspiration from the viking/scandinavian culture.
no problems, the game is great so far and the developers did a good job.
I just started the game and saw a woman named "Oddleif" a prince "Ledin" and my first reaction was, oh boy... these guys has just taken random scandinavian names :O

im def buying Banner saga 2 and 3 and I, like a lot , are very appreciated of what they have done - especially for people like me who really like srpg and viking culture.
Last edited by [NGNS-SWE] ⚡ Quezkatolen ⚡; Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:44am
Okay I guess I was wrong. I just read about a norweigian viking chieftain named Hedin.

So yes, I was wrong - even vikings used the form. I apologize.
Turtler Apr 20, 2015 @ 4:38pm 
It's good to see someone interested in the settign like this. But a few issues.

Firstly: they gave her a male's name because they thought/wanted the baby to be a boy. Sort of like people giving their pets the wrong gendered name because they didn't properly identify them. Though there are a few people who have that had it. Rare? Sure. But it's difficult.

As for the anachronistic naming.. it's a fantasy game set in a fantasy universe based loosely on Nordic culture. They don't have to follow the conventions of history or real life when there's no major reasons why those would have followed it as well. Especially since from what little we know of the setting it looks like the place was significantly less tribal than the average Medieval Scandinavian political scene, and there weren't significant amounts of foreign locals or traders to mingle with during the human and varl colonizations.

And if you look at the units themselves, there's a lot of anachronism. Huscarl style shield-n-small axe style fighters like those from the Dark Ages fight alongside long/composite bowmen(/women) like those deployed centuries later. And this is before I even talk about the sword/bow combos...

Why would we scrutinize the naming and not those?
Last edited by Turtler; Apr 20, 2015 @ 4:41pm
Originally posted by Luna:
I had assumed that Ludin was supposed to be the name Luðinn written so people who don't understand Icelandic could read it.
many people are named Ludin,Lodin,Ledin here in Sweden, but I cant say for certain if icelandic people have similiar names.
hreinnbeno Jun 23, 2015 @ 2:57am 
I was just gonna reply this. As it had been reopened again. Oddleif is female name in icelandic
and was as well in old norse. Oddleifr was the male version but in recent scandinavian languages oddleifr became oddleif as they lost cases in their language. While in icelandic it was kept. So all the leif ending names are female while leifur ending names are male.
Here is a website about names in nordic countries.
http://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Oddleif_f
Hannibal Barca Jun 23, 2015 @ 8:48am 
IT'S A GAME IN A PLACE THAT DOESN'T EXIST, I'm swedish my mormors name is Fern im sure thats not nordic either.
Originally posted by DeathMarch:
IT'S A GAME IN A PLACE THAT DOESN'T EXIST, I'm swedish my mormors name is Fern im sure thats not nordic either.

who gives a ♥♥♥♥ about your grandmas name? had nothing what I wrote about.
and yes, maybe your mormor" is an immigrant, so how does that change anything?
Hannibal Barca Jun 23, 2015 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by QuEzkaTvåL:
Originally posted by DeathMarch:
IT'S A GAME IN A PLACE THAT DOESN'T EXIST, I'm swedish my mormors name is Fern im sure thats not nordic either.

who gives a ♥♥♥♥ about your grandmas name? had nothing what I wrote about.
and yes, maybe your mormor" is an immigrant, so how does that change anything?
I give a ♥♥♥♥ about her more than your stupid argument, and no shes not an immigrant, its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game not a historical documentry. because I dont remember the Varls in my history books.
Originally posted by DeathMarch:
Originally posted by QuEzkaTvåL:

who gives a ♥♥♥♥ about your grandmas name? had nothing what I wrote about.
and yes, maybe your mormor" is an immigrant, so how does that change anything?
I give a ♥♥♥♥ about her more than your stupid argument, and no shes not an immigrant, its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game not a historical documentry. because I dont remember the Varls in my history books.

jesus christ.
yes, I actually thought this game was based on real events.
you feel happy now wackjob? If rise of the argonauts had characters named Larry,Sean and lindsey- I would also say something and you would probably go"well its a fantasy game bla bla bla" - you dont get it, and you never will. So calm down.
Last edited by [NGNS-SWE] ⚡ Quezkatolen ⚡; Jun 24, 2015 @ 12:30am
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