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Sharpie The Dragon has Europa Universalis IV

Nov 28, 2024 @ 5:05am

Price Increase

It's pretty great they put the game on sale for 90% off but the base game price has increased from £34.99 to £41.99; A 20% increase.

Can't really find much information on why they did this, but I'd guess it's because they added some DLC into the base game. Thoughts on this?

I hate it, usually the base game tends to get cheaper to encourage players to buy DLC later. I already thought that after ten years of release, the £35.00 price should've gone down, definitely not up.

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Mason

Nov 28, 2024 @ 6:10am

Didn't they just add more stuff to the ultimate pack?

bri

Nov 28, 2024 @ 6:41am

Are you sure it's not just a currency fluctuation, tax, or tariff situation?

PDXRyagi

Nov 28, 2024 @ 7:05am

Originally posted by bri:
Are you sure it's not just a currency fluctuation, tax, or tariff situation?

While these are always factors and can sometimes cause confusion, I can confirm/clarify there was indeed a price increase on October 17th, when the 4 DLC were added to the basegame.

Nats

Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:08am

Cheeky flaming greedy Paradox, that was a really sneaky thing to do. Make it look like you are giving and take away with the other hand. Typical greed. And just in time for Black Friday lol. What a joke.

Last edited by Nats; Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:09am

Immortalis has Europa Universalis IV

Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:30am

Originally posted by Nats:
Cheeky flaming greedy Paradox, that was a really sneaky thing to do. Make it look like you are giving and take away with the other hand. Typical greed. And just in time for Black Friday lol. What a joke.

Oh no, they have give 4 DLC out for free to anyone who has ever bought the base game before!!
And all the new players that come in will get those 4 DLC for the price of 2.25 pounds each!!!
Such a greedy company severely lowering the price of their products!!

Rooter

Nov 28, 2024 @ 11:55am

ACCC taking the Major Australian Supermarkets to court for this.
Increasing price prior to a sale event, is illegal.
If you dont know who the ACCC is, thank them for being able to refund steam games.
They just fined the Australian national airline $100m for misleading customers.
Im fairly certain Paradox has felt their wrath in the past.

Rooter

Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:01pm

Originally posted by PDXRyagi:
Originally posted by bri:
Are you sure it's not just a currency fluctuation, tax, or tariff situation?

While these are always factors and can sometimes cause confusion, I can confirm/clarify there was indeed a price increase on October 17th, when the 4 DLC were added to the basegame.

Hi Ryagi,
On Oct 11 Paradox advertised the following:

4 DLC free now in preparation for October 17th!

I would advise you that could be classified as "misleading consumers" under Australian Law.

I would refer this to legal promptly if I was in your position.

Last edited by Rooter; Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:04pm

Immortalis has Europa Universalis IV

Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:45pm

Originally posted by Rooter:
Increasing price prior to a sale event, is illegal.

If the product is the same yes. However, if you were selling A for 10 and are now selling A + B + C for 15, as far as the legal side of things is concerned you have not increased the price of the product but simply put a different price tag on a different product.

Originally posted by Rooter:
Hi Ryagi,
On Oct 11 Paradox advertised the following:

4 DLC free now in preparation for October 17th!

I would advise you that could be classified as "misleading consumers" under Australian Law.

I would refer this to legal promptly if I was in your position.

Again, nothing misleading about it when they clearly wrote, in the very first line of that very post that

At the same time, EVERYONE can now go to our Steam Store page and download the “Rights of Man”, “Art of War”, “Common Sense” and the “Digital Extreme Upgrade” DLC’s for free! This is in preparation for next week, when we will merge all above mentioned DLC’s into the base game for everyone by default.

Especially when they went on to explain why those product were given out for free before they were officially added to the game:

Please note that trying to load a save from before using these DLC’s will break it. This is why we have announced this initiative a month in advance (https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/free-dlcs-for-all-europa-universalis-iv-players.1701846/), so you can choose to start the game with or without these DLC’s active. If you wish to continue an old save without these DLC’s active after October 17th, you can revert your game version to 1.37.4 (https://pdxint.at/rollback)

Rooter

Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:50pm

Originally posted by Immortalis:
Originally posted by Rooter:
Increasing price prior to a sale event, is illegal.

If the product is the same yes. However, if you were selling A for 10 and are now selling A + B + C for 15, as far as the legal side of things is concerned you have not increased the price of the product but simply put a different price tag on a different product.

Originally posted by Rooter:
Hi Ryagi,
On Oct 11 Paradox advertised the following:

4 DLC free now in preparation for October 17th!

I would advise you that could be classified as "misleading consumers" under Australian Law.

I would refer this to legal promptly if I was in your position.

Again, nothing misleading about it when they clearly wrote, in the very first line of that very post that

At the same time, EVERYONE can now go to our Steam Store page and download the “Rights of Man”, “Art of War”, “Common Sense” and the “Digital Extreme Upgrade” DLC’s for free! This is in preparation for next week, when we will merge all above mentioned DLC’s into the base game for everyone by default.

Especially when they went on to explain why those product were given out for free before they were officially added to the game:

Please note that trying to load a save from before using these DLC’s will break it. This is why we have announced this initiative a month in advance (https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/free-dlcs-for-all-europa-universalis-iv-players.1701846/), so you can choose to start the game with or without these DLC’s active. If you wish to continue an old save without these DLC’s active after October 17th, you can revert your game version to 1.37.4 (https://pdxint.at/rollback)

Im sure the ACCC will take that on board before they start handing out fines.
If you dont know how the ACCC works, stay out of it buddy.
ACCC can enforce world wide, ask Steam, Sony, Pfizer, etc.
They are currently going after supermarkets for doing this exact thing.
Hope your backyard lawyering works out for you.

Immortalis has Europa Universalis IV

Nov 28, 2024 @ 1:05pm

Originally posted by Rooter:
Originally posted by Immortalis:

If the product is the same yes. However, if you were selling A for 10 and are now selling A + B + C for 15, as far as the legal side of things is concerned you have not increased the price of the product but simply put a different price tag on a different product.

Again, nothing misleading about it when they clearly wrote, in the very first line of that very post that

Especially when they went on to explain why those product were given out for free before they were officially added to the game:

Im sure the ACCC will take that on board before they start handing out fines.
If you dont know how the ACCC works, stay out of it buddy.
ACCC can enforce world wide, ask Steam, Sony, Pfizer, etc.
They are currently going after supermarkets for doing this exact thing.
Hope your backyard lawyering works out for you.

So instead of actually replying on the points I raised you choose to criticise me over what the ACCC can or cannot rule over, or how they work even though I have literally said not one word about it?

Cool, I'll just wait for the ACCC to fine Steam and Paradox for something that is perfectly legal.
Would you be so kind as to notify me when that happens?
Thx

Last edited by Immortalis; Nov 28, 2024 @ 1:33pm

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Mason

Nov 28, 2024 @ 2:06pm

OP has 10,000 hours on EU4.

What?

#11

Sharpie The Dragon has Europa Universalis IV

Nov 28, 2024 @ 2:32pm

Originally posted by Mason:
OP has 10,000 hours on EU4.

What?

Aye, 9,999 hours is at the main menu while listening to lofi

#12

Sharpie The Dragon has Europa Universalis IV

Nov 28, 2024 @ 2:43pm

Originally posted by PDXRyagi:
Originally posted by bri:
Are you sure it's not just a currency fluctuation, tax, or tariff situation?

While these are always factors and can sometimes cause confusion, I can confirm/clarify there was indeed a price increase on October 17th, when the 4 DLC were added to the basegame.

My issue is that this only helped EU4 players that already owned the game. So why increase the price of the base game for newer players? This is a pretty terrible change, newer players now have to fork out quite a bit more.

If something is going to be marked as for free, it shouldn't just inflate the base game. Especially when these DLCs are half a decade old at this point.

You can't even get the subscription without buying the base game, this will throw more people away from buying. That is, if it isn't on sale like now... which is a steal.

#13

JVC

Nov 28, 2024 @ 8:49pm

OP, noone cares what you like or not. Buy the game or not. Your choice. Play it or not, your choice. Wait for a sale or not. Your choice.

It only affects you. All sellers have the right to set prices as they want to, all buyers have the right to choose if they want to buy or not. It's that simple.

#14

Rooter

Nov 28, 2024 @ 9:25pm

Originally posted by Immortalis:
Originally posted by Rooter:

Im sure the ACCC will take that on board before they start handing out fines.
If you dont know how the ACCC works, stay out of it buddy.
ACCC can enforce world wide, ask Steam, Sony, Pfizer, etc.
They are currently going after supermarkets for doing this exact thing.
Hope your backyard lawyering works out for you.

So instead of actually replying on the points I raised you choose to criticise me over what the ACCC can or cannot rule over, or how they work even though I have literally said not one word about it?

Cool, I'll just wait for the ACCC to fine Steam and Paradox for something that is perfectly legal.
Would you be so kind as to notify me when that happens?
Thx