Add the spall liners to the nato tanks

M1A2 SEP V2 is cool and all, but why does it still not have the DU hull it clearly has in real life. M1A2 SEP, M1A2 SEP V2 and HC all CLEARLY have it equipped on the lower plate, if you just search up a photo of the vehicle. M1A2 SEP V2 as of now is just cosmetics not really an improvement from the M1A2 SEP.

Also what is with gaijin just making Abrams less and less survivable each patch, I remember you actually had to be cautious and make smart shots, but now you can shoot anywhere excluding the cheeks and just one shot it. I can't count how many times I got shot in my breach and my crew got knocked the hell out.

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swedish and german tanks always been op in War Thunder, what this furry yapping about

Swedish tanks are not OP. the players are just generally better as a decent amount more experienced players play it because newer players generally flock to the big three. german vehicles are at the br they're at because the players are generally trash, especially around 4.7-6.7. German vehicles at like 11.7 are in no way OP.

So your comment is just generalizing players based on faction they play and denying that theyre op without any facts. You can believe the truth or not... idc

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Swedish tanks are not OP. the players are just generally better as a decent amount more experienced players play it because newer players generally flock to the big three. german vehicles are at the br they're at because the players are generally trash, especially around 4.7-6.7. German vehicles at like 11.7 are in no way OP.

So your comment is just generalizing players based on faction they play and denying that theyre op without any facts. You can believe the truth or not... idc

I see you don't really know how the playerbase works. That's alright. You're only embarrassing yourself.

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another slower abrams with no increased armor and with no m829a3

yep as expected from gaijin, cant get something right with even clear facts and videos presented to them

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another slower abrams with no increased armor and with no m829a3

yep as expected from gaijin, cant get something right with even clear facts and videos presented to them

Its not that they cant get it right. Its that the abrams is a western MBT so they WONT get it right.

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what I am doing is educating people about the way the game is currently. I never said that Germany and Sweden weren't overpowered, but at the same time I'm not going to say they are, because simply put they arn't. They are where the balance should be and all NATO tanks should be on their level, but most currently are below. The PLSS is (by many players) claimed to be overpowered, and the best "NATO" tank, when in reality the only thing it is, is the best match against the T series tanks in the game currently. The leopards and the PLSS are the only vehicles in the game that are comparable to the BVM etc. in the suitability, manoeuvrability and firepower levels by most players. speak to any player that mains a nation other than Germany, Sweden or Russia and they will tell you the same (usually) or that a tank outside of the nation they play is overpowered. The problem is that, there are vehicles in the game currently that are terrible, or rather they are clearly and obviously artificially nerfed so that the tanks that are clearly and obviously artificially buffed can be oppressive. Example of this is the TURMS-T. all the things it has that are better than other nations at the same BR. good rounds, commander thermals, great gunner thermals, great ERA and people constantly justify its position because it has a bad reverse speed and is used by players who wish to jump to the end of the TT without knowing what they are doing.

Most who says a vehicle is overpowered, specially on the NATO side in the game are usually the same people who haven't played that vehicle or have no real interest in it. To be clear, I love all tanks; I don't care what nation they belong to, I don't care who operates that vehicle, I like it because it is a tank or armoured vehicle. What I don't like, is the clear bias and un-balance in the game currently. If Gaijin claim that they want to keep politics out of things, and they proceed to politically buff or nerf a vehicle either using propaganda statistics or their own self interest, they are going against the very thing they ask the players not to do and are being political, and its been going on for a very, very long time. I don't want NATO tanks to be "over powered" and I don't want the Russian tanks to be "under powered" I want things to be balanced, which isn't the case currently and it is clear there is a dislike to specific nations in the game and a favouritism to others. If Russia are allowed effective and working ERA, why cant NATO nations?.. That is fair and balanced. saying "ha, my tank is better than your tank and you arn't allowed the things that will make it competitive" is the problem. yes, all tanks will have their advantages and disadvantages, but some tanks have all the advantages and none of the disadvantages. or disadvantages that are minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

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So your comment is just generalizing players based on faction they play and denying that theyre op without any facts. You can believe the truth or not... idc

I see you don't really know how the playerbase works. That's alright. You're only embarrassing yourself.

your logic would make sense for first 2 ranks, I was talking about whole every rank. A wise guy once said: never take opinions from a guy scared of sunlight with 3k hours in WT and 150 hours past 2 weeks

Gen 2 thermals??? and Russia get's gen 3??? okay

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I see you don't really know how the playerbase works. That's alright. You're only embarrassing yourself.

your logic would make sense for first 2 ranks, I was talking about whole every rank. A wise guy once said: never take opinions from a guy scared of sunlight with 3k hours in WT and 150 hours past 2 weeks

" I got proven wrong let me now attack the other person and see if that works"

Run along now.

The addition of the SEP V2 with no M829A3 is literal proof that the Russian tree needs artificial buffs to stay competitive.

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will this be getting the new DU hull inserts like it does in real life?

Please add them

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The addition of the SEP V2 with no M829A3 is literal proof that the Russian tree needs artificial buffs to stay competitive.

And M1A1 HC and the M1A2 series with no DU inserts

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The addition of the SEP V2 with no M829A3 is literal proof that the Russian tree needs artificial buffs to stay competitive.

And M1A1 HC and the M1A2 series with no DU inserts

Not to count that the base reloads for all 120mm gunned abrams are too slow to even qualify as a loader.

The minimum reload to qualify IRL as a loader in an Abrams is 7 seconds, the started reload is longer than that.

So basically this get none of what it has in real life in terms of protection or ammunition, while the T90 gets every possible upgrade. I don't even know why I'm surprised at the bias at this point but this is ridiculous