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gaijin silently nerfing british vehicles?
What is up with this? I cant be the only one feeling it?

Warrior milan 2's not doing any damage or pen to weak points, the cannon doing no pen to even ifv's ect

The falcon weapons seem to have the same issue just not penning anymore?

And the huge nerfs to the stormer? am i being insane or does anyone else feel this?
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Toblm Sep 12 @ 9:13am 
British vehicles didnt get nerfed.

King Charles III's modifiers just are not as good as Queen Elizabeth II's.
Last edited by Toblm; Sep 12 @ 9:13am
GB Sep 12 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Cherry:
What is up with this? I cant be the only one feeling it?

Warrior milan 2's not doing any damage or pen to weak points, the cannon doing no pen to even ifv's ect

The falcon weapons seem to have the same issue just not penning anymore?

And the huge nerfs to the stormer? am i being insane or does anyone else feel this?

Warrior millan is the same its just more unpleasant to control
Falcon had its apds belt number reduced so its a bit weaker
Stormer is functional dead as a vehicle now due to being obliterated with missile agility nerf,rep cost,increased br,removed anti tank capabilty(Its irl official stats state 150mm pen but in game its 30) . Its definatly the worst top tier spaa (type 93 worse but not top tier)

Fun fact the stormer is getting a nerf next update
Squares Sep 12 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by GB:
Originally posted by Cherry:
What is up with this? I cant be the only one feeling it?

Warrior milan 2's not doing any damage or pen to weak points, the cannon doing no pen to even ifv's ect

The falcon weapons seem to have the same issue just not penning anymore?

And the huge nerfs to the stormer? am i being insane or does anyone else feel this?

Warrior millan is the same its just more unpleasant to control
Falcon had its apds belt number reduced so its a bit weaker
Stormer is functional dead as a vehicle now due to being obliterated with missile agility nerf,rep cost,increased br,removed anti tank capabilty(Its irl official stats state 150mm pen but in game its 30) . Its definatly the worst top tier spaa (type 93 worse but not top tier)

Fun fact the stormer is getting a nerf next update

Sooo the russian devs are mad the stormer is ruining their equipment in ukraine so nerf it in game?

Also wonderful nerfs to the british tech tree
So glad i play this game
I cant even remember the last time i saw a stormer. nerfed into oblivion trash tier.
MiscOne Sep 12 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by Cherry:
Originally posted by GB:

Warrior millan is the same its just more unpleasant to control
Falcon had its apds belt number reduced so its a bit weaker
Stormer is functional dead as a vehicle now due to being obliterated with missile agility nerf,rep cost,increased br,removed anti tank capabilty(Its irl official stats state 150mm pen but in game its 30) . Its definatly the worst top tier spaa (type 93 worse but not top tier)

Fun fact the stormer is getting a nerf next update

Sooo the russian devs are mad the stormer is ruining their equipment in ukraine so nerf it in game?

Also wonderful nerfs to the british tech tree
So glad i play this game
Company sits un Hungaria...is Multi National i dont get this "fact" repeated. Its just isnt true anymore.
Originally posted by MiscOne:
Company sits un Hungaria...is Multi National i dont get this "fact" repeated. Its just isnt true anymore.

Riot games sits in California but is 100% owned by Tencent, Does that make it an American game company or a Chinese one?

Just because a Company sits in another country doesn't mean it cant be another country's company.
sorry to piggyback on your post, but you brought up a point that I had thought about in the past. Does Gaijin from time to time, silently debuff certain things in the game?
There had been times when I've had a string of bad game sessions in a vehicle that I use often that made me think this way.
But then my luck turns again and I chalk it up to "I was just sucking hard that time" :)
Everytime they changed something, they should give us a change log, changing the tank overall stats is one of them, very important br0 I hate guessing game.
Toblm Sep 12 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by Col. Cornbread:
Originally posted by MiscOne:
Company sits un Hungaria...is Multi National i dont get this "fact" repeated. Its just isnt true anymore.

Riot games sits in California but is 100% owned by Tencent, Does that make it an American game company or a Chinese one?

Just because a Company sits in another country doesn't mean it cant be another country's company.

The difference being Riot Games is a subsidiary of Tencent.

Gaijin is still a privately owned company.
OOK OOOK Sep 12 @ 7:49pm 
Originally posted by MiscOne:
Originally posted by Cherry:

Sooo the russian devs are mad the stormer is ruining their equipment in ukraine so nerf it in game?

Also wonderful nerfs to the british tech tree
So glad i play this game
Company sits un Hungaria...is Multi National i dont get this "fact" repeated. Its just isnt true anymore.
"multi national" yet most developers are IN Russia... not to mention the obvious part, why is chat getting banned again? Because Russia is getting pushed in right now.
i've been playing british tanks again for a while and it doesnt seem to be much better than my previous experiences. some vehicles seem slightly faster, but none of it matters when the server hamsters are dead. I haven't tried HESH for a long time and tbh i am scared to. APDS is inconsistent at best, and never pens half the time when it clearly should. i've had 84mm APDS bounce the LFP of a super pershing and T54 when almost fully frontally facing me. Also a lot of times when I do get a pen, it will hit and kill the gunner but only wound the commander sitting right behind him. Same thing happens with side shots, i'll shoot toward the engine, but the fuel tank will absorb the shot and only catch on fire 30% of the time maybe.

On top of it the repair costs are still highers than most other nations vehicles tier 5+ and with on average .3-.7 higher br than they should have. centurian mk3, fv4202 used to be epic at 6.7 but now all they face is tanks that go faster than them, reload faster than them, and pen more than them, even if you get a downtier. it will never be the same.

tldr;APDS doesn't work, HESH doesn't work, speed is worse than ever compared to what other nations get, the reload speed and penetration that brits are know for have no real value that set them apart from several other tanks at a given BR.
Kay Sep 12 @ 9:16pm 
The Stormer was (before several nerfs) called the worst top tier SPAA by Gaijin themselves, just before they moved it up in BR.

IRL the starstreak has a 98% kill probability when launched against a helicopter, and probably shouldn't trip MAW at longer ranges (or at all, depending on what type it is) since it's effectively the same as a tank firing a dart at the helicopter (which doesn't trip MAW in game)

There are so many problems with the system in game, which drag it's effectiveness as a SAM down
Last edited by Kay; Sep 12 @ 9:19pm
Originally posted by Cherry:
What is up with this? I cant be the only one feeling it?

Warrior milan 2's not doing any damage or pen to weak points, the cannon doing no pen to even ifv's ect

The falcon weapons seem to have the same issue just not penning anymore?

And the huge nerfs to the stormer? am i being insane or does anyone else feel this?

Hello, with significant changes like this, we will typically mention it in update notes.

What changes to these vehicles have you noticed? Lack of damage, penetration, what about the Stormer?

Thanks.
Squares Sep 13 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Originally posted by Cherry:
What is up with this? I cant be the only one feeling it?

Warrior milan 2's not doing any damage or pen to weak points, the cannon doing no pen to even ifv's ect

The falcon weapons seem to have the same issue just not penning anymore?

And the huge nerfs to the stormer? am i being insane or does anyone else feel this?

Hello, with significant changes like this, we will typically mention it in update notes.

What changes to these vehicles have you noticed? Lack of damage, penetration, what about the Stormer?

Thanks.

Hello,

Is a distinct lack of damage and penetration from most of the British vehicles, Falcon apfsds rounds which used to shred mbts in the side now simply does nothing, or it takes so long to do any real damage you've been destroyed by the tank.
The Milan 2 ATGM from the warrior just does nothing? I had to have a bmp twice in the side with it to get a kill because the main cannon is useless and doesn't seem to penetrate anything short of paper with afps rounds.
And as others said, the stormer is literally useless and is about to be nerfed even more

Also ive noticed that the challenger 2 can have its frontal turret armour penetrated by atgms? which is impossible and historically been proven to be so

Overall the tree just feels awful and its getting worse and it feels way worse to play than say 2 months ago.
Kinakin Sep 13 @ 7:04am 
last nerf of britsh was the hesh nerf that killed the fv 4005 afaik.
the stuff you mentioned might just be rng?
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