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Nebucadneza Dec 11, 2016 @ 1:22pm
When do you guys plan to fix PDT? (Double DoT dmg per Tick)
Its been like 6 month since PDT's are broken...
Can you please fix them (fix double DoT tick) so the game actualy makes fun and PDT are in line with all other Towers?

it was so much more fun to experiment other Towers than PDT to find the most efficient Build for a Map... now you place 1 PDT per lane and go AFK

I get it that this is EA but comon!!! you bring new Costumes and everything for Microtransactions without fixing the Core Gameplay

EDIT:
For the People that dont know or are not experienced enough to know what im talking about

If your PDT Poison dmg is supposed to do 30k Dmg per Tick it actualy does 60k --> this is broken and not working as intended

If you look at the Screenshot you see that my PDT does 26k but effective the dmg is 53 each Tick
with Gear:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=816748233

with no modifiers:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=816758713

with no modifiers and on real mobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=816764163

EDIT:
so compare all without Gear / Spheres / Skillpoints and LVL 50
Tooltip Numbers
Canonballtower DPS: 1188
Balista DPS: 1184
Fireburst DPS: 811
Earthshatter DPS: 2168
Ramster DPS: 635
Archers DPS: 1792
Orcs DPS: 864
PDT DPS: 1968 (poison ticks 1/s so this would be the DPS)

PDT real DPS: 3936

so the Tooltip number is the one that is actualy correct since compared to the other Towers the real DPS is basicly 2x than any other tower in the game
Last edited by Nebucadneza; Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:17pm
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Nebucadneza Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by K-ToF:
At this point, gotta wonder if the tooltip is even right.
so compare all without Gear / Spheres / Skillpoints and LVL 50
Tooltip Numbers
Canonballtower DPS: 1188
Balista DPS: 1184
Fireburst DPS: 811
Earthshatter DPS: 2168
Ramster DPS: 635
Archers DPS: 1792
Orcs DPS: 864
PDT DPS: 1968 (poison ticks 1/s so this would be the DPS)

PDT real DPS: 3936

so the Tooltip number is the one that is actualy correct since compared to the other Towers the real DPS is basicly 2x than any other tower in the game
Last edited by Nebucadneza; Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:17pm
The Virologist Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Nebucadneza:
Originally posted by K-ToF:
At this point, gotta wonder if the tooltip is even right.
so compare all without Gear / Spheres / Skillpoints and LVL 50
Tooltip Numbers
Canonballtower DPS: 1188
Balista DPS: 1184
Fireburst DPS: 811
Earthshatter DPS: 2168
Ramster DPS: 635
Archers DPS: 1792
Orcs DPS: 864
PDT DPS: 1968 (poison ticks 1/s so this would be the DPS)

PDT real DPS: 3936

so the Tooltip number is the one that is actualy correct since compared to the other Towers the real DPS is basicly 2x than any other tower in the game

I say just make all other towers do 5x the damage and all these people complaining about PDT's can go back to complaining about other things.
Griny Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:34pm 
no, pdts are op. IT IS NOT ALRIGHT FOR THEM TO DO 400K DPS. and if everything else was brought up to the pdt level of brokeness then the game would be no fun, just afking.
The Virologist Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by Hans Stuart:
no, pdts are op. IT IS NOT ALRIGHT FOR THEM TO DO 400K DPS. and if everything else was brought up to the pdt level of brokeness then the game would be no fun, just afking.

LOL yet somehow my Ballistas are doing over 890k DPS, so I guess it's time they nerf everything again?
Nebucadneza Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I say just make all other towers do 5x the damage and all these people complaining about PDT's can go back to complaining about other things.

go troll somewhere else bro...
we are not complaining, we report a bug that has been here since 6 Month
now go back under the rock you came from shush

Originally posted by Black Mask:
Originally posted by Hans Stuart:
no, pdts are op. IT IS NOT ALRIGHT FOR THEM TO DO 400K DPS. and if everything else was brought up to the pdt level of brokeness then the game would be no fun, just afking.

LOL yet somehow my Ballistas are doing over 890k DPS, so I guess it's time they nerf everything again?

on one target? i rather doubt that...
Last edited by Nebucadneza; Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:39pm
The Virologist Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Nebucadneza:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I say just make all other towers do 5x the damage and all these people complaining about PDT's can go back to complaining about other things.

go troll somewhere else bro...
we are not complaining, we report a bug that has been here since 6 Month
now go back under the rock you came from shush

Make me you swedish meatball...
The Virologist Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:41pm 
That's what I thought...

Now it actually sound like you are complaining about the tower itself.
Griny Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Originally posted by Hans Stuart:
no, pdts are op. IT IS NOT ALRIGHT FOR THEM TO DO 400K DPS. and if everything else was brought up to the pdt level of brokeness then the game would be no fun, just afking.

LOL yet somehow my Ballistas are doing over 890k DPS, so I guess it's time they nerf everything again?
and you probly have orc's with 1mil health.

The pdt kills the first thing in the lane with its 400k dot, now the whole lane has a 400k dot on it. That means as long as 7 enemies are still alive it can triple your ballistas dps, without even hitting them.

With all that in mind tell me how that doesn't need a nerf/ bug fix
Last edited by Griny; Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:44pm
The Virologist Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by Hans Stuart:
Originally posted by Black Mask:

LOL yet somehow my Ballistas are doing over 890k DPS, so I guess it's time they nerf everything again?
and you probly have orc's with 1mil health.

The pdt kills the first thing in the lane with its 400k dot, now the whole lane has a 400k dot on it. That means as long as 7 enemies are still alive it can triple your ballistas dps, without even hitting them.

Actually my Serenity Aura's do the majority of my DPS due to the explosion passive.
Griny Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Originally posted by Hans Stuart:
and you probly have orc's with 1mil health.

The pdt kills the first thing in the lane with its 400k dot, now the whole lane has a 400k dot on it. That means as long as 7 enemies are still alive it can triple your ballistas dps, without even hitting them.

Actually my Serenity Aura's do the majority of my DPS due to the explosion passive.
you use 16k explosions to clear nm4?
Nebucadneza Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:46pm 
i reported the bug
https://bugs.dungeondefenders2.com/home/bug/892/pdt-dot-does-200-dmg-per-tick

reading the other posts that actualy state the same issue, Devs seem to not understand the problem or the guy who comments followes standard procedure

Originally posted by Hans Stuart:
Originally posted by Black Mask:

Actually my Serenity Aura's do the majority of my DPS due to the explosion passive.
you use 16k explosions to clear nm4?

xD made my day
Last edited by Nebucadneza; Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:46pm
The Virologist Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by Hans Stuart:
Originally posted by Black Mask:

Actually my Serenity Aura's do the majority of my DPS due to the explosion passive.
you use 16k explosions to clear nm4?

Combined with Buff beams + Monk Boost towers on my Ballistas + freeze towers. I normally just afk most NM4 Incursions after buffing the towers up to 2 levels. I drop 2 Volcanoes for added measure as well.
Nebucadneza Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Originally posted by Hans Stuart:
you use 16k explosions to clear nm4?

Combined with Buff beams + Monk Boost towers on my Ballistas + freeze towers. I normally just afk most NM4 Incursions after buffing the towers up to 2 levels. I drop 2 Volcanoes for added measure as well.

build 1 PDT and 1 protonbeam / Frostbeam each lane and AFK, you dont need any other ♥♥♥♥
Last edited by Nebucadneza; Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:50pm
The Virologist Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by Nebucadneza:
Originally posted by Black Mask:

Combined with Buff beams + Monk Boost towers on my Ballistas + freeze towers. I normally just afk most NM4 Incursions after buffing the towers up to 2 levels. I drop 2 Volcanoes for added measure as well.

build 1 PDT and 1 protonbeam each lane and AFK, you dont need any other ♥♥♥♥

Well see that's your problem if you afk like that ( FYI, PDT + PB's don't work on every map. )
Nebucadneza Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Originally posted by Nebucadneza:

build 1 PDT and 1 protonbeam each lane and AFK, you dont need any other ♥♥♥♥

Well see that's your problem if you afk like that ( FYI, PDT + PB's don't work on every map. )
well no, its everyones problem... if noone is left playing, soon noone can play anymore, but ofc the people that defend that PDT arent broken dont care about the game! instead they will just leave and play something else while the rest who realy liked it have nothing left

as an addition: if i only need PDT, why spend money or Medals on any new Hero = who pays for food for Devs family?
Last edited by Nebucadneza; Dec 11, 2016 @ 2:56pm
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