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[DE]Zach  [developer] Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:01am
The Upcoming Corrections with Regal Aya: Next Steps
Tenno,

Building a new economy is tough. Despite Prime Resurgence being a best-selling Vault debut, we are making changes to what was introduced yesterday in the Regal Aya Packs by adding Platinum. The changes we are making are a result of what you want to see from us as a Developer and what we want for ourselves: good monetization.

Our intentions were always good monetization, but we have some learnings we'd like to share regarding intentions and executions when building an adjacent economy:

We misunderstood what some players valued most in the prior Vault packs: Platinum. We stand by our initial reasoning that Regal Aya was a good value for players interested in flexibility, but we now better understand what other factors our players consider when making purchasing decisions. This value of player purchase flexibility was justified by the sales (as this is our best debut to date), but that honestly doesn't matter if there's still misalignment between us and players who want to support us.

"We want Platinum", said many.
"But these aren't Platinum packs", we'd think.

We don't want this event, which is aimed towards improving the Unvaulting system, to be held back by our misstep on pack value and our rigid (but well-intentioned) thinking in separating the Regal Aya and Platinum currencies. So, we have a change coming:

Platinum will be included in Regal Aya Packs. It will be retroactively given to those who have already purchased and added in as soon as possible for future purchases. A timeline for this will be provided shortly.

We are in the testing phase of this now thanks to our team.

The amounts will be:
  • 3 Regal Aya: 200 Platinum
  • 7 Regal Aya: 400 Platinum
  • 15 Regal Aya: 1200 Platinum

These values were chosen to closely match the Prime Vault, while also accounting for the fact that these are re-purchasable whereas Prime Vaults are not.

The technical limitations related to how our offers are shown in different marketplaces are still in play for how a player will know they receive this Plat, but we will solve this over the coming months. So in many ways, it's an 'invisible' addition until all store-fronts can be synchronized (invisible in store, present in accounts that purchase). Until then, there will be inconsistent presentation across platforms, but the Platinum will be there. We thought it wasn't possible at the time of our last posting, but our team has worked wonders and was able to find a way.

We did not want the Premium currencies to overlap, but players do because of the value in our prior Prime Vault offerings. We are opting to adjust our stance for the benefit of the community at large who weighed in with perspectives and feedback that considered all factors. Those who chose to be toxic will be able to participate in this change thanks solely to the constructive feedback that occurred - toxicity is never tolerated or rewarded.'

Moving forward you will get more value on top of the much-desired flexibility. We apologize for any stress (thanks for those who kept the peace).

See you around Varzia, Tenno!
Last edited by [DE]Zach; Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:12am
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t3kk3 Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by DEZach:
Tenno,

Building a new economy is tough.

Care to elaborate what this implies? What will happen to platinum?
[DE]Zach  [developer] Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by t3kk3:
Originally posted by DEZach:
Tenno,

Building a new economy is tough.

Care to elaborate what this implies? What will happen to platinum?

Platinum will receive no changes. This change is adding platinum as a bonus included in purchases of Regal Aya. Regal Aya is only used in the Prime Resurgence event.
Last edited by [DE]Zach; Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:14am
t3kk3 Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by DEZach:
Originally posted by t3kk3:

Care to elaborate what this implies? What will happen to platinum?

Platinum will receive no changes. This change is adding platinum as a bonus included in purchases of Regal Aya.

Ok thanks. To be honest this had me a bit worried since it could indicate a shift from tradeable to non tradeable paid currency.

Btw is the difference in the plat amount between prime packs and regal aya really necessary? Pitchforks are out already and this just looks like penny pinching without much need. Imho the amount of bad impressions this can evoke surely isnt worth the bit of additional plat sales you get out of it (if it makes many people buy more plat at all).
[DE]Zach  [developer] Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by t3kk3:
Originally posted by DEZach:

Platinum will receive no changes. This change is adding platinum as a bonus included in purchases of Regal Aya.

Ok thanks. To be honest this had me a bit worried since it could indicate a shift from tradeable to non tradeable paid currency.

Btw is the difference in the plat amount between prime packs and regal aya really necessary? Pitchforks are out already and this just looks like penny pinching without much need. Imho the amount of bad impressions this can evoke surely isnt worth the bit of additional plat sales you get out of it (if it makes many people buy more plat at all).

Prime packs are a one time purchase. Regal Aya packs can be purchased as many times as desired. The decision to shift the difference in platinum stems from this.
Mr Pink515 Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:48am 
to be honest the changes you are making are no better because the cost of the amount of Platinum you would have to buy so you can buy all the armour and capes and other visual packs it would all work out at the same price if you was to just buy the Regal aya.
many people like me and other players have already paid in to help this game develop and to be honest it is not hard to see this last update is for your pockets and not the benefit of the game.
I am sorry if you do not like this review I have never wrote a review but this is something I felt very strongly about
t3kk3 Nov 17, 2021 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by DEZach:
Originally posted by t3kk3:

Ok thanks. To be honest this had me a bit worried since it could indicate a shift from tradeable to non tradeable paid currency.

Btw is the difference in the plat amount between prime packs and regal aya really necessary? Pitchforks are out already and this just looks like penny pinching without much need. Imho the amount of bad impressions this can evoke surely isnt worth the bit of additional plat sales you get out of it (if it makes many people buy more plat at all).

Prime packs are a one time purchase. Regal Aya packs can be purchased as many times as desired. The decision to shift the difference in platinum stems from this.

Yes i understand this reasoning. But i think most customers will just value it as a replacement to buy the same content (i doubt many will buy two of the same accesory or primes). So the replacement will be more expansive than the old packs. From a pr perspective i doubt its worth to be so stingy here, but thats just my opinion.

Thanks for the reply, have a nice day/night!
Mr Pink515 Nov 17, 2021 @ 12:01pm 
yes you have just changed it to Platinum but the amount of platinum you would have to buy to buy one of each cosmetics in the shop it would cost the same or similar as it would to buy it in the Regal aya so nothing has changed you've just found a new way to scam it's not being sharp or stingy it's just being honest it's not me or anyone else as a player fault that you feel like it's stinging that's probably because you know what you're doing is wrong and I'm not the only person saying it but ok goodnight
null Nov 17, 2021 @ 12:15pm 
Still not worth it unless your circumstances fit into one of these 2 boxes
  • You only buy dual packs (no single items or 1 frame packs). Buy the biggest packs of Regal Aya 2 at a time (wasting even 1 Regal Aya makes it bad value), get 75% discount on plat (you need 75% to get better value than you get in regular prime vault dual pack) and need every single item in the pack.
  • Only need prime cosmetics

By the way, my conclusion is based on comparison to regular Prime Vault, not market prices.
Last edited by null; Nov 17, 2021 @ 12:20pm
B-O-N Nov 17, 2021 @ 12:17pm 
Still not worth it.
Mr Pink515 Nov 17, 2021 @ 12:44pm 
I would like to say they tried to do something good with the Regal aya but it's impossible
BlackHawk Nov 17, 2021 @ 1:03pm 
yeah and it wasn't toxicity erase every single comment yesterday of people not even being toxic, just adressing of how bad the event was for veterans and how this just helps to fill DE pockets and not the community.

Yet again you fail to listen, people wasn't screaming for the platinum, we were saying that for that insane amount of money for Regal Aya the least you could do is add Platinum to the packs, but plat wasn't the main problem, the problem is the cost of your new currency, which you can't even trade.
Flamboyant Nov 17, 2021 @ 1:25pm 
dam, them broke crybabies got to you
good reaction time tho, my props to ya
peppermint hollows Nov 17, 2021 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by Flamboyant:
dam, them broke crybabies got to you
good reaction time tho, my props to ya

It was objectively less value for the same price as the old vaults. People simply pointing that out isn't crying. I don't like to resort to insulting or calling people shills, but sticking up for everything they do (or any company for that matter) is just silly. I have spent a lot of money on this game over the years I've played it (enough to say I'm embarrassed to admit how much, it's in the hundreds) and I support the devs most of the time and there are a lot of good aspects to Warframe's monetisation. DE has built up a lot of good-will from the community over the years, most people are critical because they care about the game.

When you keep calling people who are just fairly criticising something about the game (and I'm aware that some people were overreacting, but I'm not talking about those people) broke and crybabies, it just makes you look like immature.
decizion Nov 17, 2021 @ 2:46pm 
Good choice, now all the regal aya haters won't have anything to say about it.
decizion Nov 17, 2021 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by 11 | Raijin Racer :
Is there a way to make Regal Aya purchasable with Platinum, such as around 300 platinum for 3 Regal Aya or around 125 platinum a piece? Thought about it since the 3 Regal Aya bundle costs the same as the 370 (300 + 70 Free) Platinum bundle, even as the Regal Aya bundles will soon give platinum as well.

This approach would help with players on a fixed budget who have to resort to selling items in trade chat for Platinum and want to get Regal Aya with little to no money spent.
Since you can buy prime accessories with regal aya that would be unfair to people who bought the packs back in the days if it would be possible to get these exclusive items with platinum.
Not gonna happen.
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