$69.99 for mediocrity.

[[NTOG] Rave]

Is this where we are now gamers?

Less content.
Less QOL.
Garbage story.
Rehashed music.
90% useless gear.
Boring zones.
Boring repetitive monsters.
Awful cutscenes especially that ending LOL. TEARS IN THEIR EYES lol.

What are we doing here. WTF was this. $70. How did we go from World to this.
HOW.
There is zero replayability in a game FOCUSED AROUND REPLAYING IT. WHY replay it? There are no options here.

There's no farming.
There's zero use for Palicos.
Why even have the stupid Seikret if you can just run everywhere anyway and it only gets in the way in fights????
Why have lil nooks and crannys in zones if there is NOTHING THERE TO FIND?
Where is the exploration value????
There's no need for fishing.
No need to capture endemic life.
No need to capture monsters.

Why. Did. You. All. Want. This. Over. World.

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by Kiririn:

Originally posted by Netsa:

Yes it was.

So anyway...

It's really strange how some people want to try and compare Wilds to a seven year old game as it launched and think that makes Wilds look good.

I mean, you got to compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges

[Netsa]

Originally posted by UwU:

if they give all you wanted, what are they going to give for the next MH game?

The game has been reset like most other games for new gen gamers.

Well, this is the third game, so we can compare it to 3, right? Where's my underwater combat? Ceadeus and his awesome music theme? Jhen Mohran and his boat battle? Can I look forward to interrupting Dire Miralis's hot tub again?

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Originally posted by Kiririn:

It's really strange how some people want to try and compare Wilds to a seven year old game as it launched and think that makes Wilds look good.

I mean, you got to compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges

I think the point he was making is that the series is supposed to evolve over time, not stay the same. Over 7 years, we shouldn't be able to point to the latest game and say "this looks exactly the same" unless that second game is a remaster. Wilds isn't a remaster.

Semi-related, but Payday 3 had this same issue. You don't compare the launch state of the newest game to the launch state of a previous game, because all of the content for that game is already out. Meaning they can steal from it (and learn from it).

Resetting the series on every single entry is idiotic, that's why the vast majority of series, including this one pre-Wilds, don't ever do it. It makes the games stale.

[TriEdge]

So no one here remembers that world on launch only has 30 fps that dips below 20 on some occasion and then it only has like 40-50 fps on ps4 pro not counting the crashes and stuff?

In regards to the open world stuff, am I the only one here who did not really care much about exploring and rather prefer to fight the monster immediately?

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by UwU:

if they give all you wanted, what are they going to give for the next MH game?

The game has been reset like most other games for new gen gamers.

Well, this is the third game, so we can compare it to 3, right? Where's my underwater combat? Ceadeus and his awesome music theme? Jhen Mohran and his boat battle? Can I look forward to interrupting Dire Miralis's hot tub again?

Originally posted by Popcorn:

I mean, you got to compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges

I think the point he was making is that the series is supposed to evolve over time, not stay the same. Over 7 years, we shouldn't be able to point to the latest game and say "this looks exactly the same" unless that second game is a remaster. Wilds isn't a remaster.

Semi-related, but Payday 3 had this same issue. You don't compare the launch state of the newest game to the launch state of a previous game, because all of the content for that game is already out. Meaning they can steal from it (and learn from it).

Resetting the series on every single entry is idiotic, that's why the vast majority of series, including this one pre-Wilds, don't ever do it. It makes the games stale.

Tf are you trying to say here?
That we should just copy and paste the monsters from World and Rise into Wilds instead of making new ones?

Had they continued updating World, it would've also gone stale.

[Retsubty]

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Originally posted by Netsa:

Well, this is the third game, so we can compare it to 3, right? Where's my underwater combat? Ceadeus and his awesome music theme? Jhen Mohran and his boat battle? Can I look forward to interrupting Dire Miralis's hot tub again?


I think the point he was making is that the series is supposed to evolve over time, not stay the same. Over 7 years, we shouldn't be able to point to the latest game and say "this looks exactly the same" unless that second game is a remaster. Wilds isn't a remaster.

Semi-related, but Payday 3 had this same issue. You don't compare the launch state of the newest game to the launch state of a previous game, because all of the content for that game is already out. Meaning they can steal from it (and learn from it).

Resetting the series on every single entry is idiotic, that's why the vast majority of series, including this one pre-Wilds, don't ever do it. It makes the games stale.

Tf are you trying to say here?
That we should just copy and paste the monsters from World and Rise into Wilds instead of making new ones?

Had they continued updating World, it would've also gone stale.

Tf are you trying to say here?

Had they continued updating World, there could have been way more new monsters added.

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by Eirawyn:

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Tf are you trying to say here?
That we should just copy and paste the monsters from World and Rise into Wilds instead of making new ones?

Had they continued updating World, it would've also gone stale.

Tf are you trying to say here?

Had they continued updating World, there could have been way more new monsters added.

Would you prefer paying subscriptions instead of paying for a full game?

If sub, then you shouldve played Frontier, better yet, play MH Online.
Pretty sure there's some ways to translate the game to English or whatever your preferred language is

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Tf are you trying to say here?
That we should just copy and paste the monsters from World and Rise into Wilds instead of making new ones?

Had they continued updating World, it would've also gone stale.

YES. Look at literally any game that has a prequel. In fact, let me just go through your own game library.

Battleblock Theater, Dark Souls 2, Don't Starve Together, God Eater 2 and 3, Sonic Adventure 2, they all heavily recycle assets from existing projects. Because those projects already existed, so there's no excuse to launch a second game with LESS content. It's common sense, basic stuff that every game does.

If you notice, Wilds has a lot of recycled monsters. Because that's how that works.

Originally posted by TriEdge:

So no one here remembers that world on launch only has 30 fps that dips below 20 on some occasion and then it only has like 40-50 fps on ps4 pro not counting the crashes and stuff?

Case in point. We're back to square one with a game that doesn't run very well on any system, but the fact that it's happened twice is somehow a reason for some people to defend the new game.

EDIT:
And to be clear, this isn't "instead of making new ones", it's "along with making new ones." And it doesn't only apply to monsters, it applies to every mechanic that was already in the previous two expansions.

[Retsubty]

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Originally posted by Eirawyn:

Tf are you trying to say here?

Had they continued updating World, there could have been way more new monsters added.

Would you prefer paying subscriptions instead of paying for a full game?

If sub, then you shouldve played Frontier, better yet, play MH Online.
Pretty sure there's some ways to translate the game to English or whatever your preferred language is

I wouldn't mind them doing 2-3 expansions at least.

Wilds just doesn't represent this "huge leap" That'd you hope from a new generation.

Most of the content here could have just been in World.

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Tf are you trying to say here?
That we should just copy and paste the monsters from World and Rise into Wilds instead of making new ones?

Had they continued updating World, it would've also gone stale.

YES. Look at literally any game that has a prequel. In fact, let me just go through your own game library.

Battleblock Theater, Dark Souls 2, Don't Starve Together, God Eater 2 and 3, Sonic Adventure 2, they all heavily recycle assets from existing projects. Because those projects already existed, so there's no excuse to launch a second game with LESS content. It's common sense, basic stuff that every game does.

If you notice, Wilds has a lot of recycled monsters. Because that's how that works.

Originally posted by TriEdge:

So no one here remembers that world on launch only has 30 fps that dips below 20 on some occasion and then it only has like 40-50 fps on ps4 pro not counting the crashes and stuff?

Case in point. We're back to square one with a game that doesn't run very well on any system, but the fact that it's happened twice is somehow a reason for some people to defend the new game.

Yeah, and we've been through that for LITERALLY 5 ENTIRE GAME!
Again, World isn't the start of the MH series, it was MH1/G, its the start of a revamped MH.

And they have reused assets from the previous games.

What "less content" are there when comparing base World to base Wilds are you talking about anyways?

[Popcorn]

Originally posted by Eirawyn:

Originally posted by Popcorn:

Would you prefer paying subscriptions instead of paying for a full game?

If sub, then you shouldve played Frontier, better yet, play MH Online.
Pretty sure there's some ways to translate the game to English or whatever your preferred language is

I wouldn't mind them doing 2-3 expansions at least.

Wilds just doesn't represent this "huge leap" That'd you hope from a new generation.

Most of the content here could have just been in World.

People complaining about CC and Clagger was already an issue.

Would you really prefer building upon a broken skeleton of a house, or destroying the house and rebuilding it from the ground up?

Check out all the games that have these expansions and then show me the revenue these companies get from these expansions

[Retsubty]

Lol here we go again.

Like the ♥♥♥♥ in MH Wilds is not even more broken. It's gotten progressively easier.

The new houses they build are always even easier than the last one.

They don't care about long time fans. All the new features are only geared towards new players.

It's weird.

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Popcorn:

What "less content" are there when comparing base World to base Wilds are you talking about anyways?

First off, can we just officially dispense with comparing a base game from 2025 to a base game from 2018? I'm losing my sanity trying to explain basic concepts.

[Cadaver]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by Popcorn:

What "less content" are there when comparing base World to base Wilds are you talking about anyways?

First off, can we just officially dispense with comparing a base game from 2025 to a base game from 2018? I'm losing my sanity trying to explain basic concepts.

Why wouldn't yu compare the base game when talking about release content?

[不良ヌルポインタ]

I'm going to laugh, when GTA6 comes out hovering around $100 USD and most of you be praising Rockstar... That company is known to hate PC-platform.

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Cadaver:

Originally posted by Netsa:

First off, can we just officially dispense with comparing a base game from 2025 to a base game from 2018? I'm losing my sanity trying to explain basic concepts.

Why wouldn't yu compare the base game when talking about release content?

v

Originally posted by Netsa:

You don't compare the launch state of the newest game to the launch state of a previous game, because all of the content for that game is already out. Meaning they can steal from it (and learn from it).

That includes DLC content. Iceborne didn't magically cease to exist when they began developing Wilds.