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kentosama Sep 7, 2013 @ 12:14pm
Kernel panic with Dota 2
hi, I have reinstalled several times my ArchLinux to prevent kernel panics, but every time I want to play Dota 2, the system freezes and the keyboard LEDs blink until the computer restarts. Sorry, i cant give you some information about the problem because I do not know where to get the error messages after a kernel panic.

I am convinced that the problem is caused by Dota 2, because when I play for a while in another game (Serious Sam 3), I have no crash. But when I try to start a party of Dota 2, I have a random kernel panic.

Thank you for your help
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Zyro Sep 7, 2013 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Shingo San:
hi, I have reinstalled several times my ArchLinux to prevent kernel panics, but every time I want to play Dota 2, the system freezes and the keyboard LEDs blink until the computer restarts. Sorry, i cant give you some information about the problem because I do not know where to get the error messages after a kernel panic.

But you're sure it's a kernel panic? You found it in the logs or something?

Originally posted by Shingo San:
I am convinced that the problem is caused by Dota 2, because when I play for a while in another game (Serious Sam 3), I have no crash. But when I try to start a party of Dota 2, I have a random kernel panic.

Kernel panics are always kernel or driver's fault. A userspace application must not be able to crash the kernel.
R3450N Sep 7, 2013 @ 2:55pm 
First, we need to know which GPU you're using to ascertain the drivers you would be using. (If you're AMD I have very little to offer)

lspci | grep VGA
Toquinha Sep 7, 2013 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by Shingo San:
hi, I have reinstalled several times my ArchLinux to prevent kernel panics, but every time I want to play Dota 2, the system freezes and the keyboard LEDs blink until the computer restarts. Sorry, i cant give you some information about the problem because I do not know where to get the error messages after a kernel panic.

I am convinced that the problem is caused by Dota 2, because when I play for a while in another game (Serious Sam 3), I have no crash. But when I try to start a party of Dota 2, I have a random kernel panic.

Thank you for your help
I've had this too and it wasn't a Kernel Panic for me. It was probably a problem related to the memory.

All I did was I opened my case, removed everything and cleaned everything to it's bones. Took the memory out and clean it's contact points it with one of those rubbers used at school. Took a vacuum cleaner and suck the dirt out of the socked. I did this with everything that can be removable on the MOBO, including the master power cable. Clean everything, the socket of the VGA, memory, connectors of hard-drivers, make it shine again.
kentosama Sep 7, 2013 @ 11:37pm 
[shingo@localhost ~]$ lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670]

Perhaps this is the fault of the Catalyst 13.8 beta driver? With Windows 7, I have not had any crashes. I removed Linux, because I have too often of kernel panics, but I really want to use this OS and I think I can solved the problem. I know that ATI 3D cards are not ideal for play on Linux. Is there a way to get some information about a kernel panic?

thank you
Last edited by kentosama; Sep 7, 2013 @ 11:38pm
kentosama Sep 8, 2013 @ 8:16am 
I used the PC all day and I had no kernel panic. I am developing a web site about Linux Aptana Studio and Firefox. I'll start Dota 2 to see if the PC will crash or not yet.
Zyro Sep 8, 2013 @ 8:37am 
Why do you think it's a kernel panic? Could you show the corresponding log entry, plase?
kentosama Sep 8, 2013 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Zyro:
Why do you think it's a kernel panic? Could you show the corresponding log entry, plase?

I think this is a kernel panic because the computer freezes and the keyboard blinks or sometimes just the computer hangs without rebooting. I just finished a party of Dota 2 (about 30 minutes) and I had no kernel panic or no crash. I hope it will last!
Toquinha Sep 8, 2013 @ 9:04am 
Just out of curiosity, is there even a log when this happens?
Unyieldingly Sep 8, 2013 @ 9:40am 
did you 100% wipe your drive when reinstalling?
RedBaron Mar 27, 2015 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by Linux Junior s2 Camila:

All I did was I opened my case, removed everything and cleaned everything to it's bones. Took the memory out and clean it's contact points it with one of those rubbers used at school. ...

This would be valid if it wasn't happening only with DoTA 2 and in my case also Team Fortress. It doesn't matter what my settings for this game are - lowest, middle or highest settings result in random system freezing and so far in all cases an abandoned game against my will due to the fact that I can't power off, power up, boot, load my environment, start Steam (often it decides to start an update, which makes it even worse time-wise!), start DoTA and reconnect to the game. It was like this before the fresh install and it was like this after the fresh install.

PS: Logs didn't indicate any issue (let alone kernel issue) at all.
Toquinha Mar 27, 2015 @ 3:52pm 
due to the fact that I can't power off, power up, boot, load my environment, start Steam
Then there's something VERY strange with your system.

Please post your specs:
What video card, OS (e.g. Ubuntu 32bits), what video card drivers, what kernel, what memory, motherboad, HD, if you have other systems installed, etc. Post as many details as you can.
RedBaron Mar 27, 2015 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by Linux Junior s2 Camila:
due to the fact that I can't power off, power up, boot, load my environment, start Steam
Then there's something VERY strange with your system.

Please post your specs:
What video card, OS (e.g. Ubuntu 32bits), what video card drivers, what kernel, what memory, motherboad, HD, if you have other systems installed, etc. Post as many details as you can.


You misunderstood. What I meant was that I cannot do all that in such a short amount of time especially since Steam does some update or whatever verification every time I start it and if I'm unlucky there is a new DoTA update available without which I cannot play the game until it's downloaded and installed (otherwise: Client out of date message inside DoTA). When I do a hard reset my system always needs to recover the journal, clean the orphaned nodes etc. etc. And this is even before the login. As for my specs the only thing that I fear might be the problem for all this is the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650, which should be enough to run the game and in fact it actually does a pretty good job (I can set most of the settings on high and the game looks damn great). I'm using a 64bit Debian Wheezy with kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64. The system is up-to-date but since this is Debian 7 (as far as I remember Debian 8 is coming soon this year) things are not top notch in terms of actually up-to-date. I do recall that I had a similar issue some time ago when I was still using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but if I recall correctly it is based on Debiam 7 so it's not much of a difference. I have to admit that my system is nothing incredible when it comes to hardware (I have an Intel i3 for Heaven's sake) and it's like 6 years old maybe. Sometimes I also have this "freeze ma system" problem in TF2 and TF2 in terms of requirements is incredibly tolerant towards the user's system. So far I'm thinking that it's either the video drivers (although DoTA 2 and TF2 are the only games I'm having problems with) or the Source engine itself, since both are using it. The driver is from the fglrx-driver non-free with version 1:12-6+point-3. I just saw online that there is the 1:14 in the Wheezy backport repos so I might give it a try.



EDIT: Weird, packages.debian.org says that backports contain the 1:14 yet when I try to install from there it tells me I have the most up-to-date package 1:12. Go figure. LOL
Last edited by RedBaron; Mar 27, 2015 @ 7:03pm
Toquinha Mar 27, 2015 @ 7:15pm 
Wait, so you're running Steam on Wheezy? No wonder you're having problems. Upgrade to Jessie.

No, Ubuntu releases are mostly based off of Debian Testing, and they're NOT the same thing as Debian Testing. Debian is a much superior system, in all regards. There's even a saying that goes "Valve cleaned all Ubuntu's crap, and at the end all that was left was Debian" ;-)

In regards to drivers, that "1:14" means nothing, you gotta look at the rest of the name. Currently on Jessie/Sid the latest AMD driver is 14.2, the same as wheezy-backports https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/fglrx-driver
It's not a great driver, the one at openSUSE is much better.

How did you install your client? Mixing repos? If so, that's a BAAD idea.

Don't forget to install libgl1-fglrx-glx:i386
RedBaron Mar 27, 2015 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by Linux Junior s2 Camila:
Wait, so you're running Steam on Wheezy? No wonder you're having problems. Upgrade to Jessie.

No, Ubuntu releases are mostly based off of Debian Testing

Ah, sorry, I meant testing. LOL As for Valve and Ubuntu - as far as I remember SteamOS was initially based on Ubuntu but then Valve moved to Debian (mostly due to some disputes with Canonical).

As for the upgrade - I intend to do that pretty soon once Debian 8 comes out. They froze the testing release I think in the middle of 2014 and this usually means that approx. 1 year after that the final stable release will be published. Ty for the tip with the drivers. Can't afford to do such a huge step right now. That's why I dumped Ubuntu - stability. Usually 2-3 months after a release of Ubuntu I was still waiting since the quality of the product is just sh@t and considering the fact that non-LTS releases have a cycle of 6 months it was more and more tedious with each and every new version (that's why I went LTS but even Ubuntu LTS is often very broken upon release).

As for the installation of the Steam client - it is actually from a project hosted on github. It is the same client as the one Valve officially offers to the users but circumvents a major issue some people have upon installation. I for once was unable to install the "official" client and had to go with this.

I have the libgl1-fglrx-glx:i386 on my system too since this was one of the requirements.

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I actually did a loooong pause in DoTA (approx. 5-6 months) since back then after an update DoTA became unplayable for me. I had major glitches even in the lobby/shop window let alone during a match. I get some glitches even now every once in a while always after some (not all!) update. The same applies for TF2 but at least in TF2 so far I haven't had a single system freeze, which is pretty neat. :D
RedBaron Mar 28, 2015 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by Cam Linux:
Install Ubuntu 14.04 with latest AMD proprietary drivers and be done.



The day I decide to install Ubuntu again on any system that I own is the day when I'll personally chop my hands off...With a spoon!
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