debianeitors

[dopa]

who use wheezy to play? post your version and as behaves =D

[dilworks]

Wheezy AMD64 here... but I'm considering to board Jessie soon

Wheezy is simply too stale for Steam. Being a owner of nVidia hardware doesn't help as Wheezy will be pretty much stuck forever on the 304.xx drivers (and you can't pull the 319.xx from Experimental since the packagers were really BRILLANT and stuck a dependency on newer libc than the one on Wheezy).

So if you're going to build a Steambian(TM) rig, avoid Wheezy at all costs, and go Jessie/Sid + Experimental.

[dopa]

hello, thanks for your recommendation, I upgrade to jessie, but I had a problem with nvidia drivers and new kernel, maybe it was because I am a little novice in this world of GNU.linuxI, thought about relocating to wheezy again but will try again in jessie.

if you have any advice to install the drivers? I have an old 9400 GT...

mate greetings

[dilworks]

I've started my upgrade to Jessie, a crapload of packages to download :)
Remember that the upgrade is ONE WAY ONLY, there is no downgrade from Testing to Stable!!! (if you want to go back to Wheezy... you will have to backup and format!)


What problems are you having?

Installing the nVidia drivers from Experimental requires you first to enable the Experimental repo: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental

...then use this to fetch nVidia drivers from experimental:

apt-get -t experimental install nvidia-glx nvidia-cuda-toolkit nvidia-smi nvidia-settings nvidia-opencl-icd nvidia-opencl-common nvidia-libopencl1 libgl1-nvidia-alternatives libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386

(you may need to modify a bit that line, since it has been a long time since I've installed anything from Experimental, and nVidia driver packaging on Debian changes frequently)

[Tux9656 (FreeBSD 14.0)]

I run sid AMD64. Works great. Anyone that is going to run jessie/sid should consider using btrfs make regular snapshots. My snapshot saved my *** on more than one occasion.

[UnkendTech]

Originally posted by Tux9656 (3.10-rc7):

I run sid AMD64. Works great. Anyone that is going to run jessie/sid should consider using btrfs make regular snapshots. My snapshot saved my *** on more than one occasion.

Btrfs is not stable

[dilworks]

ext4 is rock solid and It's Good Enough(TM) for home systems, why the hell would I want to try brtfs? :P

I've just migrated to Jessie. Same usual bugs, but I no longer need Ubuntu's libc hackybuggyhackybuggy install :)

[Zyro]

I'm running Wheezy (it runs fine) with these exceptions:

Packages from Unstable:
awstats/unstable uptodate 7.1.1~dfsg-1
bc/unstable *manually* upgradeable from 1.06.95-2+b1 to 1.06.95-8
dc/unstable *manually* upgradeable from 1.06.95-2+b1 to 1.06.95-8
debian-policy/unstable uptodate 3.9.4.0
exiftran/unstable uptodate 2.07-10+b1
firmware-ralink/unstable uptodate 0.38
glx-alternative-mesa/unstable uptodate 0.3.0
glx-alternative-nvidia/unstable uptodate 0.3.0
glx-diversions/unstable uptodate 0.3.0
gparted/unstable *manually* upgradeable from 0.12.1-2+b1 to 0.16.1-1
kdiff3/unstable uptodate 0.9.97-3
kshutdown/unstable uptodate 3.0~beta8-1
libc-dev-bin/unstable upgradeable from 2.17-5 to 2.17-7
libc6/unstable upgradeable from 2.17-5 to 2.17-7
libc6-dbg/unstable upgradeable from 2.17-5 to 2.17-7
libc6-dev/unstable upgradeable from 2.17-5 to 2.17-7
libc6-i386/unstable upgradeable from 2.17-5 to 2.17-7
libokularcore1/unstable uptodate 4:4.8.4-3+b1
libxine2-xvdr/unstable uptodate 1.0.7+cvs20130223.2117-6
libxineliboutput-sxfe/unstable uptodate 1.0.7+cvs20130223.2117-6
lintian/unstable upgradeable from 2.5.13 to 2.5.14
locales/unstable upgradeable from 2.17-5 to 2.17-7
nvidia-kernel-common/unstable uptodate 20130505+1
nvidia-support/unstable uptodate 20130505+1
okular/unstable uptodate 4:4.8.4-3+b1
vdr-plugin-xineliboutput/unstable uptodate 1.0.7+cvs20130223.2117-6
wpasupplicant/unstable uptodate 1.0-3+b2
xineliboutput-sxfe/unstable uptodate 1.0.7+cvs20130223.2117-6
youtube-dl/unstable upgradeable from 2012.09.27+dfsg1-1 to 2013.06.21-2

Packages from Experimental:
libgl1-nvidia-glx/experimental *manually* upgradeable from 313.26-1 to 319.17-1
linux-doc-3.4 3.4.4-1~experimental.1 installed: No available version in archive
linux-source-3.4 3.4.4-1~experimental.1 installed: No available version in archive
nvidia-alternative/experimental *manually* upgradeable from 313.26-1 to 319.17-1
nvidia-glx/experimental *manually* upgradeable from 313.26-1 to 319.17-1
nvidia-kernel-dkms/experimental *manually* upgradeable from 313.26-1 to 319.17-1
nvidia-settings/experimental *manually* upgradeable from 313.18-1 to 319.17-1
nvidia-vdpau-driver/experimental *manually* upgradeable from 313.26-1 to 319.17-1
nvidia-xconfig/experimental uptodate 310.19-1
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia/experimental *manually* upgradeable from 313.26-1 to 319.17-1

[dilworks]

For Jessie/Sid users on multiarch (this means amd64): Watch out for this bug!
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674467

If you want sound on your 64-bit box, you would install libasound2-plugins:i386... except that this depends on libjack-jackd2-0:i386... which depends on libopus0:i386, which sadly is anything but multiarch-compliant. If you're smart enough to be using anything but stable, there is a patch enabling multiarch and you will want to build your own .debs (I have no idea about how to do so for multiarch targets). Otherwise... the wait to get that patch accepted will be loooong and boring, so I suggest to place libjack and friends on hold (i.e. avoid dist-upgrade at all costs!)

Why the hell jackd2 (which is an audio workstation thing that someone rarely uses nowadays) is linking aganist Opus (a free audio codec that noone uses yet because it isn't even finished?) is something that rustles my jimmies. A somewhat-retarded dependency IMO, but I don't do Jack :P

[|Pro Kittens| Medic Plz]

Debian just runs my servers.

Playing games? Ubuntu all the way.

[Shark]

Originally posted by |Pro Kittens| Medic Plz:

Debian just runs my servers.

Playing games? Ubuntu all the way.

Debian is actually a very stable desktop os, I don't see any reason to not game on it.

[dilworks]

Originally posted by |Pro Kittens| Medic Plz:

Debian just runs my servers.

Playing games? Ubuntu all the way.

Debian STABLE runs your servers.

Debian TESTING or UNSTABLE plays your games.

Playing games on Stable is like using a old '93 Chevrolet Blazer to go off-road when you could go for the 2011 Tahoe :P

[Zyro]

Though at the moment, most packages from stable are new enough for desktop and gaming.