Steam for Linux

Steam for Linux

Eg Jun 2, 2015 @ 8:56am
What Is The Best Linux Desktop Environment For Gaming
I made a couple videos doing a simple graphics benchmark comparison between popular desktop environments on Ubuntu 15.04.

The first video compares Unity, KDE Plasma 5, and Gnome 3.14.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPKPDUvPZ48

The second video compares Xfce, Mate, and LXDE with Openbox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNGG_dUBBU0
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Balderick Jun 2, 2015 @ 11:36am 
... because steamos steamos-session does not use a desktop environment to run the steam for linux client in bpm!?.
Last edited by Balderick; Jun 2, 2015 @ 11:37am
Dusk of Oolacile Jun 2, 2015 @ 1:44pm 
If you need literally the best (performace), you'll have to make it yourself. Arch or Gentoo with only the packages you need are the fastest. However, they need some basic knowledge about linux, so if you're a total beginner, just consider not going for the best yet.
Get something with a lightweight UI and that saves as many resources as possible. The more of the computer that isn't hogged by the OS, the more you have for games. This isn't a problem for even more flashy and visually attractive distros, but still avoid things like ubuntu unity and gnome, use something like XFCE or LXDE intstead.

Check out:
Arch/arch derivitives like manjaro or antergos
gentoo
lubuntu, kubuntu
debian 8 with a lightweight DE

Avoid:
Default ubuntu
Distros with unneeded programs, features, or processes running by default
Gnome or KDE

Random helful tip:
Don't leave your browser opened while gaming, RAM is their favorite snack
halifax Jun 3, 2015 @ 5:35pm 
Guys, did anyone watch his videos? The results were basically 100% it doesn't matter what desktop/WM you use in Ubuntu - your games will perform the same.
Balderick Jun 3, 2015 @ 5:37pm 
... which would make each of our favoutite distros the "best" distro to us individualy!?.
halifax Jun 3, 2015 @ 5:49pm 
yup. He admits his title was "click-bait" anyway. But I'm ok with that, since he was testing things I am a target demographic of. The results all being a very close tie is useful information too.
I have both 64-bit Ubuntu and Lubuntu 12.04 in separate partitions sharing the same /home partition on 32 GB SD card that I boot from a tablet PC that has 1 GHz 2 core cpu with 2 GB RAM and AMD HD 6250 graphics. On that minecraft ran quicker in Linux than in Win7 Pro (booted from 32 GB SSD). But it was only slightly faster in LXDE than in Unity with Compiz, so hardly enough to be concerned about on a faster computer with decent cpu and gpu. Any way you look at it minecraft is barely playable in a pinch on that slow tablet @ 1280x800

I have been mostly playing Team Fortress 2 lately and that in 64-bit 14.04 with just a 60 watt GTX 750 Ti on my old i5 650 3.2 GHz desktop is usually in triple digit fps in high settings (except AA) @ 1080p without doing anything about Unity and Compiz. The slowest game I have in my other account with very detailed graphics, The Talos Principle, runs about 40 fps.
Tux9656 Jun 3, 2015 @ 8:04pm 
The best DE for gaming on Linux is no DE. Just start X and have it load Steam and nothing else.
henriquealrs Dec 8, 2015 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by Tux9656 (4.2.4):
The best DE for gaming on Linux is no DE. Just start X and have it load Steam and nothing else.

Is there a tutorial or somewhere explaining how to do this? How do I completely close the DE and start only steam?
Any will do, you will be runing full screen anyway or max windowed.

You probably don't want Unity with it's ugly sidebar, perhaps Cinnamon would be better (far more customisable and familiar to Windows users out of the box) Perhaps even MINT since it is even lighter on resources. I just prefer Cinnamon.

Originally posted by henriquealrs:
Originally posted by Tux9656 (4.2.4):
The best DE for gaming on Linux is no DE. Just start X and have it load Steam and nothing else.

Is there a tutorial or somewhere explaining how to do this? How do I completely close the DE and start only steam?

Ensure you're at a runlevel that permits X11.

Login: ......
Password: *****

: startx
Last edited by The Muppet Surgery Special; Dec 8, 2015 @ 11:03am
DIRT Overlord Dec 8, 2015 @ 1:19pm 
Im curious if anyone else came to the same conclusion. I run the newest xfce with compton simply because it gives you your keyboard back if a full screen game crashes. I have had lxde and mate give me problems with full screen crashed windows, and gnome doesn’t have a full gui for setting mouse acceleration.
(I like kde but its buggy atm. Been using xfce for about a year and liking the stability a lot)
Drako Frost Dec 8, 2015 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by The Muppet Surgery Special:
Any will do, you will be runing full screen anyway or max windowed.

You probably don't want Unity with it's ugly sidebar, perhaps Cinnamon would be better (far more customisable and familiar to Windows users out of the box) Perhaps even MINT since it is even lighter on resources. I just prefer Cinnamon.

There's nothing ugly about Unity sidebar, how about keep your taste to yourself?

Cinnamon is nice, but Linux Mint has security flaws, I wouldn't recommend it for newbies.
Drako Frost Dec 8, 2015 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by DIRT:
Im curious if anyone else came to the same conclusion. I run the newest xfce with compton simply because it gives you your keyboard back if a full screen game crashes. I have had lxde and mate give me problems with full screen crashed windows, and gnome doesn’t have a full gui for setting mouse acceleration.
(I like kde but its buggy atm. Been using xfce for about a year and liking the stability a lot)

From my experience XFCE is by far the most stable DE on Linux.

Everyone is bashing KDE, but Gnome 3.18 is also pretty buggy. Despite a few bugs, I'm very happy with KDE 5.
Originally posted by Drako Frost:
Originally posted by The Muppet Surgery Special:
Any will do, you will be runing full screen anyway or max windowed.

You probably don't want Unity with it's ugly sidebar, perhaps Cinnamon would be better (far more customisable and familiar to Windows users out of the box) Perhaps even MINT since it is even lighter on resources. I just prefer Cinnamon.

There's nothing ugly about Unity sidebar, how about keep your taste to yourself?

Cinnamon is nice, but Linux Mint has security flaws, I wouldn't recommend it for newbies.

The OP asked for our opinion, that is my opinion. Why don't you respect other peoples opinions?

Got a link to these security flaws? Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS. I would recommend Ubuntu or Mint for newbies, both are very very easy to use. Don't run as root and install gufw to make it easy to use the ufw firewall.

If I wanted Unity, i would like something like Windows 10 and Continuum rather than Unity. W10 Continuum is done right (more or less still a bit incomplete in places) Unity is pretty much half hearted with respect to unifying interfaces and devices. How does unifying the interface across devices mean for gaming, quite a lot actually given a lot of us use mobiles and tablets for games too as well as the desktop. I wouldn't be surprised if Steam and games went to other devices outside the living room or house either after their Steam machines drive. We already have the client app on devices, all we need is the game content there too. It WILL come. This is where W10 Continuum has the interface advantage, however, steam has the gaming content. They will bring out a "mobile picture" as well as Big Picture later I imagine or tweak the big picture to be mobile device friendly. I have games both for Android (thanks to Amazon app store free apps days) that are also on Steam as PC games (Eufloria, World of Goo etc) so this is becomming increasingly important.

So, until Linux gets a DE like Continuum that is unified for all devices (Unity COULD be this DE but not in it's current form to my liking), I will use Cinnamon as it best represents the "desktop". I don't want a half hearted unified interface (Unity) I want it done right (Continuum). If somebody (Canonical?) pretty much did a Continuum on Linux, that would be awesome. Unity is not that DE in it's current form.

Being a Windows 7 gamer, I use Cinnamon for obvious parallels with the interface. As a mac gamer I would probably pick Unity.
Last edited by The Muppet Surgery Special; Dec 8, 2015 @ 2:28pm
Drako Frost Dec 8, 2015 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by Maleko:
Originally posted by Drako Frost:
Everyone is bashing KDE, but Gnome 3.18 is also pretty buggy. Despite a few bugs, I'm very happy with KDE 5.

Didn't really see anyone bashing KDE. But I'd like to know how Gnome 3.18 is buggy. Been using it for a while and haven't experienced any bugs at all.

I've seen a lot of comments from people bashing KDE/Plasma 5, some on Reddit, some in others sites I don't recall right now. There's also this article:

http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/10/some-thoughts-on-the-quality-of-plasma-5/

About Gnome, I was using Arch Linux, and I found lots of bugs on Gnome 3.18. If I plug a pen drive or external hard drive, and move the mouse over the notification popup, Mutter simply crashes and restart itself. Sometimes external devices weren't show on Nautilus, Nautilus also crashes when I tried to delete folders with lots of files inside, and sometimes crashes randomly. There's also a bug where Gnome ignores the refresh rate I set on Nvidia control panel. Every Gnome update fixed a few bugs and introduced new ones. There are a few other bugs, but that's the ones I remember right now, I switched to Kubuntu 15.10.
Last edited by Drako Frost; Dec 8, 2015 @ 2:28pm
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