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Sonic Boomer Mar 19, 2016 @ 7:40pm
Best class for Dual wielding pistols?
I'm hesitating between Sorcerer, Pyromancer or Commando. Which one is the best for going dual wield pistols?
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Im going to attempt to dual weild pistols with a trickster.. which is probably the worst choice of these :)
Sonic Boomer Mar 19, 2016 @ 7:57pm 
Originally posted by Cream Cheese Mustard King:
Im going to attempt to dual weild pistols with a trickster.. which is probably the worst choice of these :)
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Sonic Boomer Mar 19, 2016 @ 7:58pm 
Well, I still need a proper answer
Well, Sorcerer offer the best synergy, with Iskandra's and Reckless Power complimenting Demolitionist's fire damage. And You can have Olexra's for crowd control.
Pyromancer, despite the name, is less well tune for doing fire damage than Sorceror. It does, however, make up for it with chaos and vitality as well as higer attack speed from Solael's Witchfire and Possession. In some situations, it's good to be able to do multiple types of damage. Also, Pyromancers have debuffs that can slow down enemies and make them more susceptible to all damage. This might be enough to make up for lack of raw damage compare to Sorceror.
Commando have the best passive survivability (highest health and physique) and skills that buff physical damage. It's less flashy than the other two but is also solid in its own way.
So, all three are good and you should consider what you want.
Dyer1981 Mar 19, 2016 @ 8:29pm 
demo+arcanist - both of there main toggles pair very well, plus you get the defensive bonuses from aranists bubbles.
Sonic Boomer Mar 19, 2016 @ 8:30pm 
I might go sorcerer then! I already have one, but he's going the fire&ice route and is more of a caster. This time he'll be a right clicker.
Skoll Mar 19, 2016 @ 8:53pm 
I've played both sorceror and pyromancer. For what its worth my pyromancer had about 1000 more sheet dps when they were the same level and similar gear (though they both pretty much 1-shot everything anyway), and could actually facetank most things unlike the sorceror who had to kite with cannister bombs all the time. If you go the pyromancer route max brimstone and static strike ASAP, then go into the occultist tree and get solaels, blood of dreeg and possession.

Basically the main thing sorc has is the panic button from mirrior of eroctes and next to infinte energy with iskandras. Pyromancer doesn't really have any panic buttons but I find is really just tankier in general although I do have to chug an energy potion from time to time.

I wouldn't stress too much over it though, both play extremely simililarly. I just prefer pyromancer for the tankiness and its slightly less braindead since theres 1 or 2 more good active combat skills to take.
Last edited by Skoll; Mar 19, 2016 @ 8:54pm
Sonic Boomer Mar 19, 2016 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by Skoll:
I've played both sorceror and pyromancer. For what its worth my pyromancer had about 1000 more sheet dps when they were the same level and similar gear (though they both pretty much 1-shot everything anyway), and could actually facetank most things unlike the sorceror who had to kite with cannister bombs all the time. If you go the pyromancer route max brimstone and static strike ASAP, then go into the occultist tree and get solaels, blood of dreeg and possession.

Basically the main thing sorc has is the panic button from mirrior of eroctes and next to infinte energy with iskandras. Pyromancer doesn't really have any panic buttons but I find is really just tankier in general although I do have to chug an energy potion from time to time.

I wouldn't stress too much over it though, both play extremely simililarly. I just prefer pyromancer for the tankiness and its slightly less braindead since theres 1 or 2 more good active combat skills to take.
hmmm, I thought the pyromancer had less synergies than the sorcerer. I might check into that. Chaos + fire sounds good, but flash freeze + everything sounds even better.
I know this isn't in your radar, but, just for your consideration, my only pistol dual wielder is an Elementalist (demo+shaman) and she's glorious. With Stormcaller's Pact to buff Lightning damage and Mortar + Storm Totem. Also, Mogdrogen's Pact provide quite a survivability.
Skoll Mar 19, 2016 @ 11:34pm 
Originally posted by Sybreed:
hmmm, I thought the pyromancer had less synergies than the sorcerer. I might check into that. Chaos + fire sounds good, but flash freeze + everything sounds even better.

They both have their own synergies. Brimstone in the Demo tree adds flat chaos damage and occultist has some good stuff in that department. Arcanist has the Iskandra's line to buff up your elemental damage you get from the firestrike line in demo. Possession is basically a Maiven's Sphere that gives less damage absorption but boosts your damage instead of reducing it like maiven's. Personally the only things I took in Arcanist on my sorceror were the Mirror for the panic button, maiven's, inner focus and the iskandras line. Flash Freeze is kind of moot when every single enemy in a mob except for bosses and heroes dies to a single auto attack.

Again its largely personal preference. Both are basically going to play the same where you left click a couple times and everything in front of you just explodes into puddles of blood.
Erei Mar 20, 2016 @ 7:10am 
For sorc, you forget the flash freeze, which is both a wonderful CC, and a nice fire debuff. It's like the bread and butter for sorc, flash freeze, nuke with fire.
Sonic Boomer Mar 20, 2016 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Skoll:
Originally posted by Sybreed:
hmmm, I thought the pyromancer had less synergies than the sorcerer. I might check into that. Chaos + fire sounds good, but flash freeze + everything sounds even better.

They both have their own synergies. Brimstone in the Demo tree adds flat chaos damage and occultist has some good stuff in that department. Arcanist has the Iskandra's line to buff up your elemental damage you get from the firestrike line in demo. Possession is basically a Maiven's Sphere that gives less damage absorption but boosts your damage instead of reducing it like maiven's. Personally the only things I took in Arcanist on my sorceror were the Mirror for the panic button, maiven's, inner focus and the iskandras line. Flash Freeze is kind of moot when every single enemy in a mob except for bosses and heroes dies to a single auto attack.

Again its largely personal preference. Both are basically going to play the same where you left click a couple times and everything in front of you just explodes into puddles of blood.

Since I already had a sorcerer, I went with your suggestion. Plus, I thought the name "Pyromancer" fitted better for a dual pistol class.
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