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Moderators refusing to work.
Hey guys so well i'm unhappy that it has come to this situation but it has. We're pretty unhappy with the COP update for a number of reasons. I'm going to discuss this further up in the thread. Due to this situation, myself and Jones are now refusing to moderate the forums anymore.

This DOES NOT mean go crazy, there will still be steam moderators on the forums at times.

We've recently being under a great deal of stress after the crimefest update. A number of death threats thrown at us as well as much more heavy moderation needed due to a huge increase in users breaking the rules. We are not paid and have been in a very stressful situation.

Why now?
A lot of people will be wondering why we didn't do this earlier, due to the recent safe release. A lot of things happened and Overkill admitted it wasn't managed very well. We we're hoping Overkill would learn from its mistakes regarding the last update and we were hoping they took these into consideration with the COP. We have a lot of issues regarding the release of the COP that shows they have NOT listened to user feedback at all.

The delays gave me hope that they had reworked the content of the safe in response to user feedback. This does not seem to be the case.

As of release the COP safe can provide 1 of 25 skins. This is what we expected. What i didn't expect is that these skins can be of varied quality and rarity. This is NOT acceptable and just expressed the lack of feedback taken into consideration.


The COP safe should have done like one of this.

1) Players could pick what weapon they wanted the skin for and the skin quality should have ALWAYS been mint condition. This would then be tradable. All skins would have either no skin boost or a boost. They would all be equal.

2) Players got all 25 skins in mint condition but the contents would not be tradable at all.

So what now?
I like to believe that i am not unreasonable but unfortunately the situation constantly degraded. We will no longer refuse to work if we are given a public interview with a member of Overkill. We want to be heard and see what Overkill are willing to do to fix the situation.

If Overkill decides to let us go as moderators it's something we are prepared for, i personally cannot sit by when they continue to promote immoral business practices. I felt the skins system needed work but could function. The recent safe update showed against that.

I'm very sorry that it has come to this situation but the stress we have had to manage with, coupled with our unhappiness with the situation has pushed us to make this choice. I am not sure what Tessio feels about this so please do not insult, attack or involve him unless he wants to be involved.

Edit: Tessio has also agreed to join us.


"...crafted with love and care"
*Gets broken in skin.*


Update
We have a meeting for wednesday 6pm. Sweden time.
Last edited by ♥OVERKILL_Ashley♥; Nov 16, 2015 @ 7:48am
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Zombie Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:04pm 
Sorry to see you in a position like this, but thank you for taking a principled stand. It honestly means a lot. <3
Sir Ruffington Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:04pm 
Thank you for all the time you and the other moderators have put into the forums.
CajunDeauxBoy Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:05pm 
On your side, Ashley

EDIT: & TY ... For all of your donated time. For those that don't know, the mods are not paid & do this on their own dime
Last edited by CajunDeauxBoy; Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:06pm
drewbstar Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:06pm 
"Players seem to be loving it"
Good Luck and Have Fun.
You need this, you earned it.
Last edited by drewbstar; Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:08pm
Salem Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by Dr. Zombie:
Sorry to see you in a position like this, but thank you for taking a principled stand. It honestly means a lot. <3


Originally posted by Sir Ruffington:
Thank you for all the time you and the other moderators have put into the forums.
Umaru Doma (Banned) Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:07pm 
OMG.
YOU KNOW YOU ♥♥♥♥ED UP HARDER THAN HARD IF EVEN ASH & JONES ARE THIS DISSAPOINTED.


Excellent job OVK!You finally cracked 2/3 of my last "ultimate" Milestones!
Mutant1988 Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:07pm 
Don't interpret this as me gloating. But do you see what I've been trying to say in the arguments I've had with you now?

I'm happy you woke up to what they're doing and their general attitude towards their customers.
gia Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:07pm 
thumbs up and sorry about the personal aggro you got
2High2tell Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:07pm 
I have NEVER respected a mod so much until now. I mean WOW good for you and Jones. I am so proud of you 2 beyond words. I feel it will all be for not, but do not think for a second that the users here do not see this as the greatest thing in the forums we have read in a long time. again, WOW. I did not know you were getting death threats, there is no need for that it is a game. I do imagine how stressful being mods here would be since crimefest 2. but CF2 will be nothing comapred to the anger the release of patch 90 today. (This is a good time to back away) You have my full respect and I know others will be here saying the same...., THANK_YOU I can not say that enough.
*.) Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:07pm 
Just Wow Peeps.

100% respect for you guys.
Dark Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:07pm 
About time.
SgtLlama Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:08pm 
+1 awesomeness to the mods. Best of luck to you all. Keep up the good work! You're actually really cool people with tons of patience (sometimes I don't know how you all do it)! Respect.


(unlike the higher ups at overkill).
Last edited by SgtLlama; Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:09pm
Rubric Nov 12, 2015 @ 4:08pm 
On your side 100%
Originally posted by Mutant1988:
Don't interpret this as me gloating. But do you see what I've been trying to say in the arguments I've had with you now?

I'm happy you woke up to what they're doing and their general attitude towards their customers.

As i said, i felt it could be worked on and fixed. That said, the COP was just them doing the total opposite.
Originally posted by BBQ Chef:
OMG.
YOU KNOW YOU ♥♥♥♥ED UP HARDER THAN HARD IF EVEN ASH & JONES ARE THIS DISSAPOINTED.
Excellent job OVK!You finally cracked 2/3 of my last "ultimate" Milestones!
what's the last point?
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