Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

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ShadowRFox Mar 8, 2018 @ 12:14pm
So female generals....
So what the list of all the factions that have access to female generals. So far I've seen the Iceni, Egypt, & Kush all have access to female generals at the start. Not to mention I saw a few non-playable barbarians factions that had a queen and female war chief leading armies.

Also what the deal with political marriages with these females generals. I find it funny that when a general get married to a foreign leader, the female leader can keep leading their armies. So if I attack that army is that like an instant divorce?:steammocking:
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Originally posted by CA Ella:
This thread is a mess so I'm locking it (and bans have been issued for those who repeatedly violated Steam community guidelines).

As has been said previously: Total War games are historically authentic, not historically accurate - if having female units upsets you that much you can either mod them out or just not play.
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DELETE Aug 12, 2018 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by Rawfire:
the other bad argument is the one made by that pseudo-intellectual james guy pretending to be a "historian" by listing several important women in ancient history. Using a list of rare exceptions to the patriarchy does nothing but list rare exceptions where either the man was unavailable or moments to shame men for failing to fulfill their gender role.
Also, don't forget that many of the sources mentioning non-Roman warrior or leading women, are Roman. And the purpose of certain Roman writers was often not primarily to give an accurate account, but to moralize.

For example, Romans despised German men for their vices and effeminacy, but admired German women for their virtues, and to shame and admonish their audience, they would praise or exaggerate these women unrealistically, ascribing to them manly roles or qualities that Roman men ought to have.
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erick Aug 12, 2018 @ 5:56pm 
Women can not engage in combat just as well as men and it is debatable if they ruled as well. Cleopatra while famous screwed up big time and Rome collapsed. In fact the west is in a collapse as we speak because a woman's role is to have children. Which when given the choice they seem to not want to. I will give you there have been some decent women leaders though. However societies compete with each other and so societies that make too many mistakes cease to exist. If things are equal to men and women it would be natural that women and men would have been equal in number in positions of power or say soldiers or whatever.

No, I think we live in times of a political narrative driven by the power of the vote. Women are the majority and so they rule. Changing things over time like how one views history or physical attributes. Of late it seems the push is growing. We see pop culture pushing more by how things like Star Wars, Ghost Busters and now the Terminator are being changed to fit a narrative. Same thing is happening across culture and in things like games.

Here is another example. Women boldly proclaim being a feminist. Yet men do not proclaim being of any male type of equivalent. I'm not even sure if there is one. If you even question the teachings of feminism you are usually attacked even by other men. Even if you have facts. If you wish to know who controls a society look to the one's you can not ridicule or even question.
SavageSavant Aug 12, 2018 @ 10:59pm 
Originally posted by Rawfire:
Originally posted by erick:
Awesome! I like being historically accurate.
Maybe a hundred years from now people will remember that patriarchy is not sexism.

Perhaps, but dont hold your breathe.
SavageSavant Aug 12, 2018 @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by Goblin King:
Originally posted by Rawfire:
the other bad argument is the one made by that pseudo-intellectual james guy pretending to be a "historian" by listing several important women in ancient history. Using a list of rare exceptions to the patriarchy does nothing but list rare exceptions where either the man was unavailable or moments to shame men for failing to fulfill their gender role.
Also, don't forget that many of the sources mentioning non-Roman warrior or leading women, are Roman. And the purpose of certain Roman writers was often not primarily to give an accurate account, but to moralize.

For example, Romans despised German men for their vices and effeminacy, but admired German women for their virtues, and to shame and admonish their audience, they would praise or exaggerate these women unrealistically, ascribing to them manly roles or qualities that Roman men ought to have.


You're absolutely right & very keen observance at that.
Doom Aug 12, 2018 @ 11:15pm 
Originally posted by erick:
Women can not engage in combat just as well as men and it is debatable if they ruled as well. Cleopatra while famous screwed up big time and Rome collapsed. In fact the west is in a collapse as we speak because a woman's role is to have children. Which when given the choice they seem to not want to. I will give you there have been some decent women leaders though. However societies compete with each other and so societies that make too many mistakes cease to exist. If things are equal to men and women it would be natural that women and men would have been equal in number in positions of power or say soldiers or whatever.

No, I think we live in times of a political narrative driven by the power of the vote. Women are the majority and so they rule. Changing things over time like how one views history or physical attributes. Of late it seems the push is growing. We see pop culture pushing more by how things like Star Wars, Ghost Busters and now the Terminator are being changed to fit a narrative. Same thing is happening across culture and in things like games.

Here is another example. Women boldly proclaim being a feminist. Yet men do not proclaim being of any male type of equivalent. I'm not even sure if there is one. If you even question the teachings of feminism you are usually attacked even by other men. Even if you have facts. If you wish to know who controls a society look to the one's you can not ridicule or even question.

Intelligence and reason on tw discussions?
Oh man the plebs are going to attack you like crazy..
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CA Ella  [developer] Aug 13, 2018 @ 2:48am 
This thread is a mess so I'm locking it (and bans have been issued for those who repeatedly violated Steam community guidelines).

As has been said previously: Total War games are historically authentic, not historically accurate - if having female units upsets you that much you can either mod them out or just not play.
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