DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition

DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition

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CazadorDeLobo (已封鎖) 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 6:47
Trying to do Permadeath runs; need counseling, tips
This has taken a lot out of me. I'm not doing DS1 permadeath runs, rather, DS2, but I figure this will reach the right people. DS2 is full o' noobs.

I need some advice. Any will do. I'm pretty gud at the game, but my problem is all mental; I am overconfident and try to rush things, thus resulting in quick, embarassing deaths. The obvious solution is to tend to this character flaw, and try things another way. But, that is where I am stuck, as I feel there is a way to refine myself without doing things too differently from what I am used to(for example, a specific way of traversing areas).

Even if you have never attempted a permadeath run(where you reset the game upon your first death), what thoughts do you have about it which would help get you into the right state of mind? Can you think of some basic, fundamental concepts and principles to bring along with you?
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TrueArchery 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 7:15 
Always take the safest path. Play it safe and patient. Respect every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hollow. Don't do any optional ♥♥♥♥. Stay focused.

That's about it.

Oh, and stay offline.

You want specific tips for das2, too?
Groen90 (已封鎖) 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 7:21 
Not sure if it counts, but I did the no-death run of DS2 in NG+ together with the no bonfire run to get the 2 rings; I mentally prepared to play safely, always have a shield ready, and be extra careful near instant death spots like cliffs or petrifying enemies, but other than that I just tried to relax and play normally... and surprisingly enough I got it first try (but then again I was in NG+ so I had everything maxed out, that surely helped).

Still I think that being worried about dying and starting over is the first step towards failing the run. Also learning the whole game by heart is a must, but I guess you already know it, lol
This is the same mindset that helped me with other no-death runs in other games, basically just try to enjoy the game without worrying too much about dying, but still taking it nice and slow. The more times you fail, the more you can learn which points of the game or which enemies get you killed the most, and prepare in advance... and don't be afraid of cheesing stuff, lol, unless it's against the rules of the run of course.
Karmo 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 7:23 
Don't give up , skeleton!
Taco Cat 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 8:49 
Check out Ortzdava, he did a no hit run. Essentially, he just relied on magic in the end. Pokey weapons like the estoc are effective too.
https://youtu.be/QfYhjjpC07o
Taco Cat 2017 年 11 月 3 日 下午 8:51 
引用自 TacoCat
Check out Ortzdava, he did a no hit run. Essentially, he just relied on magic in the end. Pokey weapons like the estoc are effective too.
https://youtu.be/QfYhjjpC07o
Oh right, he also made a detailed guide for a no death run, but that may be too boring to watch.
N.Wiseman 2017 年 11 月 4 日 上午 2:31 
Rushing, eh? Well, have you tried saying (out loud even) exactly what you are going to do before you do ANYTHING?

i.e. "I am going to hit the spider on the left with a souls arrow from the doorway, then run to the resin, then leave at once, not getting any other items."

This helped me with the less noble problem of repeatedly running at bosses with no strategy at all in my first ds1 playthrough. Should apply to ds2 though, that looks pretty deterministic.
CazadorDeLobo (已封鎖) 2017 年 11 月 4 日 上午 3:34 
引用自 N.Wiseman
Rushing, eh? Well, have you tried saying (out loud even) exactly what you are going to do before you do ANYTHING?

i.e. "I am going to hit the spider on the left with a souls arrow from the doorway, then run to the resin, then leave at once, not getting any other items."

This helped me with the less noble problem of repeatedly running at bosses with no strategy at all in my first ds1 playthrough. Should apply to ds2 though, that looks pretty deterministic.
Since I'm streaming this on Twitch, I've taken to doing this a lot more. It helps!
WSlord 2017 年 11 月 4 日 下午 12:13 
I am actually prepping myself for SL1 (4...) bandit no additional gear run myself.
Way less savy in the hardcore in this than you and others of course. Got years of hardcore Might and Magic Run Experience though.

Trying to map problem areas on another character, remembering spots that give me trouble in previous play through (is probably the biggest mental block). In these mapping sessions making of check list of every way I get killed especially in stamina damage ratio. Practicing and muscle memory is a lot more prominent in Dark Souls. I mean we’ve all beaten this game multiple times and “know it” like the back of our hands (at the same time always learning something new ) so just reminding that to ourselves like a mantra helps.
As been mentioned saying your plans out loud helps and turning them again into a mantra and playing it into a larger joke may help lighten the soul a bit.

The bosses weaknesses in DS2 to poison is ridiculous. Less than 14 poison daggers and the smelter demons out for the count. So that’s an arsenal up your sleeve to consider in your planning.

Helping slow that rushing thing down is to pace yourself with a bow. Slows the game down immensely and opens the window to avoid many ambush tricky spots may help.
And maybe practicing and mapping out around that blasted Iron King’s hole can stem that fear off too.

So yeah just do your thing, you know the game way more than I do. It’s about the no death run not the rush this time around. I usually preform better when I don’t try to avoid dying (I mean thinking to myself this is Dark Souls and I’ll die rather than panicking over getting nicked or in a proximity angle of the Aegises back swing).

Soothing music of your choice helps, or no music at all. In Dark Sousl 3 runs I tend to shut off the dialogue for the bosses as well.

Well, not sure if anything there helps, good luck.
I'll stick you in my prayers a fine dark souls, to you.
:AOEShield: :praisesun:
最後修改者:WSlord; 2017 年 11 月 4 日 下午 1:56
TrueArchery 2017 年 11 月 4 日 下午 12:59 
引用自 wshatparty
I am actually prepping myself for SL1 bandit no additional gear run myself.
Consider it failed since the Bandit doesn't start at SL1.
WSlord 2017 年 11 月 4 日 下午 1:09 
引用自 TrueArchery
引用自 wshatparty
I am actually prepping myself for SL1 bandit no additional gear run myself.
Consider it failed since the Bandit doesn't start at SL1.
Yes, just a slip of the mind, failed it I guess, starting at level 4.
最後修改者:WSlord; 2017 年 11 月 4 日 下午 1:11
CazadorDeLobo (已封鎖) 2017 年 11 月 4 日 下午 7:41 
引用自 wshatparty
引用自 TrueArchery
Consider it failed since the Bandit doesn't start at SL1.
Yes, just a slip of the mind, failed it I guess, starting at level 4.
There's nothing significantly different, in principle, between a SL1 run and a No Leveling run. I would reckon that Bandit isn't a whole lot better than Pyro, especially considering the lack of Pyro Flame. I forget if Bandit has enough ATT to equip a single spell.
Knight Silver 2017 年 11 月 6 日 下午 12:29 
Have you tried getting the BKH as soon as possible in DS2? It'll help in the beginning to it's high dmg, but you might want to switch it out when an enemy has high fire defence. I'd recommend the rapier for a sidearm.
CazadorDeLobo (已封鎖) 2017 年 11 月 6 日 下午 9:29 
引用自 Blank
Have you tried getting the BKH as soon as possible in DS2? It'll help in the beginning to it's high dmg, but you might want to switch it out when an enemy has high fire defence. I'd recommend the rapier for a sidearm.
I finished the run already, using Mirrah Greatsword.
Taco Cat 2017 年 11 月 6 日 下午 10:10 
引用自 Wulf Hunter
引用自 Blank
Have you tried getting the BKH as soon as possible in DS2? It'll help in the beginning to it's high dmg, but you might want to switch it out when an enemy has high fire defence. I'd recommend the rapier for a sidearm.
I finished the run already, using Mirrah Greatsword.
grats \o/
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