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Trash Boat 2013年8月2日下午7:09
Nightmare is too much of a step up from hard.
I didn't die on any boss with hugo on hard but ended up dieing 20+ on the first mini boss with toal on nightmare. Does anyone else feel like theres a difficulty missing inbetween hard and nightmare?
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Sara  [开发者] 2013年8月2日下午11:16 
Try just grinding out a level. Levels can make a huge difference in this game.
Double Tigger 2013年8月3日上午1:30 
No. Nightmare difficulty is there for only the most dedicated and extreme players who want a serious challenge so it should be significantly tougher than hard. When it comes to harder than hard mode difficulties I believe it should lean towards being too difficult as opposed to too easy.
SnowPin 2013年8月3日上午4:50 
You're also playing Toal, he's IMO the hardest character to play.
Sahri 2013年8月4日上午3:48 
It's called Nightmare for a reason :P
Fel 2013年8月8日上午7:56 
Toal has a line in his description saying that it's for good players only.

He is harder than the others, and if you add the step up of dificulty too, you end up getting hard time even on normal mobs from the get-go.
Admitedly, I only completed the game with yunica on normal prior to trying this, and ended up abusing the invulnerability from the thunder spell, but even the wind spell seems way less useful (no area of effect, forced move).

I guess Toal just needs us to get used to his very close combat style.
Skwaddelz 2013年8月13日上午10:45 
thia game isnt all that hard on nightmare (try oath in felgana, not impossible but harder) like sara said just level up youd be suprised how much od a difference it makes
Trash Boat 2013年8月13日下午12:36 
i decided just to beat it on hard, if i have to grind to beat bosses at my skill level i might as well just lower the difficulty.
Nightzu 2013年9月18日上午1:46 
Leveling up in Ys games makes all the difference in the world, especially on nightmare.
thats not my soap 2013年9月19日上午2:00 
Toal is a gigantic step up from Yunica/Hugo in difficulty- likely for the first boss alone, who is way harder than the bat ♥♥♥♥♥♥. But, yeah, levelling up makes a gigantic difference in this game- just having +1 defence can take those 7 hits down to 3 or 2, which really adds up. Getting weapon upgrades is pretty much compulsory, too.
Waypoint 2013年10月21日下午12:32 
Make sure you're at least at level for every boss you run across (check the bestiary). One of Nightmare's main gimmicks is to considerably inflate the effect of level discrepancy on the damage you do and take. If you're still having problems, even grinding out one level over them will tremendously reduce the damage you take.

Also, Galleon is actually quick enough to mess you up and doesn't follow a really easy pattern like the other first midbosses. Hope you learned that dash move really fast, because you're immune to damage while using it and you have enough of a window to squeeze in just a couple hits between his attacks.

Also Hugo is kind of an easymode character for most fights and not even Nightmare boss rush is all that difficult for him. Toal actually has some hard fights that he can't cheese with an overpowered shield and a ranged attack, though some of the later ones are kind of trivialized by his fire attack (Pictimos, Zava, and Dalles are made hilariously easy, even on Nightmare).
最后由 Waypoint 编辑于; 2013年10月21日下午12:42
Kaworu 2013年12月8日上午11:48 
Now I understand why Toal in Hard was that complicated compared to Hugo in Normal.
Zecele 2013年12月15日下午5:45 
I beat Nightmare difficulty with Toal funny enough i found him the easiest character to use.
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