Ys Origin
dynastystar Apr 10, 2018 @ 9:44pm
which game to follow up after Origin?
considering getting one on the next Steam Sale so I have one to play after I'm done Origin but don't know which one.
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Berahlen Apr 10, 2018 @ 9:48pm 
I & II Chronicles is fun in its own way but very different, and it has some pretty glaring old-game-isms. You'll probably need a guide at times to figure out what the hell you're supposed to be doing. If you're willing to deal with that, I'd actually say play it first.

Oath (remake of III) and Seven are the really good ones. Definitely do those at some point.

Ark (VI) is...rough. It was the first game they did in Origin's engine, and it really shows. It has high points and low points, and is also where they started trying to pull together the previous games' mythos. If you play it, you definitely want to do Chronicles before, and probably Seven afterward (Seven carries over one of the Ark characters and elevates him to a more prominent role). Maybe start out watching a Lets Play of it though to see if you're willing to do the whole thing? The story is fine but the gameplay is REALLY rough and combat doesn't flow as smoothly as Origin and Oath.

Lacrimosa (VIII) is coming out soon-ish. It was delayed because the English translation was done by a different company (Nippon Ichi) and they botched it so badly it even got the attention of Japanese gamers and they had to redo it. But the game itself is really good, and the redone translation no longer looks like it was done by a machine, so it'll almost certainly be worth picking up.

XSeed is picking up Celceta (remake of IV), so keep an eye out for it. Maybe watch an LP of the original Ys IV before Ark -- it had a few different releases, but lparchive has a good run of the Dawn of Ys version.
Last edited by Berahlen; Apr 10, 2018 @ 10:05pm
> botched translation

Archaeozoic Big Hole



To be fair to it...I remember that name and not the proper translation.
Last edited by Quint the Alligator Snapper; Apr 10, 2018 @ 10:43pm
EdgarAllenSwole Apr 10, 2018 @ 11:40pm 
Oath is a personal favorite. It plays almost identical to Origin and has some of the best bosses in the series. It's also a self-contained story, so you don't need to stress about continuity. The only callback to previous games is your wingman, who's first introduced in Ys I.

As for the alternatives: like Waypoint mentioned, Ark plays more like an experiment than a fully realized game. The characters, visuals, and music are all memorable, but the combat leaves something to be desired. The boss design in particular is atrocious.

Ys I & II are similar to old Zelda games: simple, challenging, and esoteric. Ys I is a serviceable opening to the series, but I really adore Ys II. It's a massive leap in technical quality, for one. It also has a boatload of easter eggs and, in my humble opinion, the best waifu in the series. I think every fan of modern Ys games should play it at some point. If I were you, though, I'd start with Oath just to ride out your momentum with the Origin combat system.

Someone else will have to describe the merits of Ys Seven, since I never got into it. The graphics, upgrade system, and party mechanic don't strike my fancy.
Berahlen Apr 10, 2018 @ 11:57pm 
I wasn't sold on the party mechanic in Seven at first, but it works really well. CPU teammates are generally competent at staying alive, take considerably reduced damage if they get hit anyway, and threshold at 1 HP unless you personally switch to them and take the hit (with a couple exceptions like one boss that grapples and leeches them). It's different but done well. The only downside is that you don't get a boss rush because the party isn't hardcoded per encounter.

It's also pretty different because without a jump button you have to Flash Guard a lot of attacks instead, especially on higher difficulties. It seems cheap when you watch a video of some pro rocking out and just tanking the hell out of everything, but it's actually high risk/reward and the timing is way tighter than it looks. If you pull it off you null all damage, get free gauge, and your next few hits are auto-critical. But if you're off a bit, you take an auto-crit instead, and multi-shot attacks can slip between guards. You have to strategize which attacks are safer to dodge or guard head-on, and pulling it off consistently for a whole fight is very difficult but incredibly satisfying.

Originally posted by Quint the Demon Owl:
Archaeozoic Big Hole

The worst part is the Japanese version had a better name that was already in English. I can at least understand a lazy translation of lines and text that were actually in Japanese, but that one was pretty much already done!
Last edited by Berahlen; Apr 11, 2018 @ 12:05am
I hope they leave in the crap translation as an extra.

Replaying the game with that will be hilarious.
Ikagura Apr 11, 2018 @ 1:07am 
Origin is 700 years before Ys 1&2 so there's no direct sequel sadly

But You can do pretty much every Ys game in whichever way you want
dynastystar Apr 18, 2018 @ 1:44am 
and now I'm done my playthrough of the third character of Ys Origin.
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