This is not early access, this should a free demo.

[A Stupendous Confectionery]

The amount of content allotted for the price isn't justified for me, feels shallow and not ready for release. I didn't watch much content outside the game besides a few of the live streams on the steam page and I already saw what feels like everything, maybe not all the power ups but all mob types, the 1 boss, the 1 biome.

This aint it.

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

It's a new Steam feature, Early early early access.

[Lubu]

i 100% agree but get ready to be attacked by the it's only EA people. I don't care if its under EA the amount of content on day one is a joke and laughable.

[A Stupendous Confectionery]

Originally posted by Lubu:

i 100% agree but get ready to be attacked by the it's only EA people. I don't care if its under EA the amount of content on day one is a joke and laughable.

I love EA games but this is another level of early lol

[Telzen]

Don't buy it then. Hard concept I guess.

[Lubu]

Originally posted by ssbishop92:

Originally posted by Lubu:

i 100% agree but get ready to be attacked by the it's only EA people. I don't care if its under EA the amount of content on day one is a joke and laughable.

I love EA games but this is another level of early lol

Same i have a few ea games and they feel like full games alot of fun. But this one just feels like what were they thinking coming out this early legit nothing to do already down the boss in my 2nd try like what.

[Fawks :3]

Originally posted by Telzen:

Don't buy it then. Hard concept I guess.

Hurr durr. I already refunded it. Kinda hard to know IN ADVANCE, yes?

[Sombrero]

It's funny when Hades does it it's genius but if it's Ravenswatch it's a robbery?

Get your logic straight my friends.

Nobody forces you to buy a product, it's pretty clear the amount of content currently present in the early access the game have not hidden that fact at any point.

If anything my concern is more how the game is designed and the amount that the final game will have because the characters have a very rigid moveset that won't change (aside from the choice of ultimate). Power ups are nice but they just enhance what already exist.

I hope they find ways to have a bigger impact on each character's moveset through updates otherwise the final product might feel more repetitive than most roguelikes.

(It's probably the most polished/highest quality roguelike I've played at this point despite it being early access though)

[A Stupendous Confectionery]

Originally posted by Sombrero:

It's funny when Hades does it it's genius but if it's Ravenswatch it's a robbery?

Get your logic straight my friends.

Nobody forces you to buy a product, it's pretty clear the amount of content currently present in the early access the game have not hidden that fact at any point.

If anything my concern is more how the game is designed and the amount that the final game will have because the characters have a very rigid moveset that won't change (aside from the choice of ultimate). Power ups are nice but they just enhance what already exist.

I hope they find ways to have a bigger impact on each character's moveset through updates otherwise the final product might feel more repetitive than most roguelikes.

(It's probably the most polished/highest quality roguelike I've played at this point despite it being early access though)

This game and Hades should not even be in the same sentence

[afterthepostrock]

According to the EA roadmap you will not see any new content until summer which basically says you that you are locked to one region and level 5 characters. I mean I understand what EA means but this is disaster. You can't release game in that state even in EA.

[Telzen]

Originally posted by Fawks :3:

Originally posted by Telzen:

Don't buy it then. Hard concept I guess.

Hurr durr. I already refunded it. Kinda hard to know IN ADVANCE, yes?

Uh no? The store page tells you what is currently in the game. There are also videos on youtube you can watch to see what the game currently has. People complaining about the price but its apparently not high enough for them to do any research on what they are buying lol.

[Nacon]

Originally posted by afterthepostrock:

According to the EA roadmap you will not see any new content until summer which basically says you that you are locked to one region and level 5 characters. I mean I understand what EA means but this is disaster. You can't release game in that state even in EA.

This is incorrect, new content will be added this Spring with a new Hero, new Ultimate Abilities for all Heroes and other improvements.

[afterthepostrock]

Imagine you need to do a RESEARCH on GAME. Next step will be "If you lack of content just make content by yourself"?

[Telzen]

Originally posted by afterthepostrock:

Imagine you need to do a RESEARCH on GAME. Next step will be "If you lack of content just make content by yourself"?

Yeah because looking to see what something is before buying it is crazy........

Maybe you are just a kid who has parents to buy everything for them lol.

[afterthepostrock]

Originally posted by Nacon:

This is incorrect, new content will be added this Spring with a new Hero, new Ultimate Abilities for all Heroes and other improvements.

New zone is much more important. New hero is still very small chunk of content which changes nothing tbh. As a game developer myself I understand why you push game into release so early but you guys must prioritize some stuff to provide full core game loop instead of adding new heroes. Playing act one will be boring as hell even if you add 10000 new heroes, you will not catch new audience and can't hold old because how much people will stick to the game after 10 hours of play with lack of content? I guarantee that retention on d30 will be around zero meanwhile roguelike games should have great replayability. This is the nature of this game genre. You have great foundation for that but simply lack of content to show to public what is this game about.

I can provide detailed feedback on this game as rl veteran but I see you know all I can say by yourself. Just be fair with your audience and rework the roadmap. Provide full game and work on new heroes and abilites later because this is much less important.

[Telzen]

Originally posted by afterthepostrock:

Originally posted by Nacon:

This is incorrect, new content will be added this Spring with a new Hero, new Ultimate Abilities for all Heroes and other improvements.

New zone is much more important. New hero is still very small chunk of content which changes nothing tbh. As a game developer myself I understand why you push game into release so early but you guys must prioritize some stuff to provide full core game loop instead of adding new heroes. Playing act one will be boring as hell even if you add 10000 new heroes, you will not catch new audience and can't hold old because how much people will stick to the game after 10 hours of play with lack of content? I guarantee that retention on d30 will be around zero meanwhile roguelike games should have great replayability. This is the nature. You have great foundation for that but simply lack of content to show it to public.

Point to the game you made that is more successful than their last game. No? You can't? Then maybe quit telling them how to do their job lol.