Has damage over time effect upgrades been removed?

[MrBendiix]

I played on the alpha and was offered, bleed, poison, burn, doom, like every match, ever since the update went live, I have done 6-7 runs on chaos 7 with different characters and I have not been offered any damage over time upgrades once?

[Kenji Kndk (JP)]

I'm not sure about that but only some classes have those peaks like Elementalist, so Excutioner seems not for all classes anymore

[MrBendiix]

Originally posted by Kenji Kndk (JP):

I'm not sure about that but only some classes have those peaks like Elementalist, so Excutioner isn't for all classes anymore

I was getting the upgrades like on those characters almost every run on the alpha, but ever since its gone live I have not seen it a single time, I played mainly monkey king, but also other characters. I was getting the upgrades for them on the alpha. Its so strange.

[Powerhorder]

i believe they are tied to spell having bleed or whatever on it already for them to show.

[Dustphos]

They're still there and expanded.

You need to be able to do said effects to be able to roll those upgrades now, I believe. Skills that causes DoT should let you roll for them.

There's once where I got poison mainly because of "Kill stuff, explode in poison" Rune. Then I get all different types for using the "20% to apply individual DoT effect" Rune.

[MrBendiix]

Originally posted by Powerhorder:

i believe they are tied to spell having bleed or whatever on it already for them to show.

Not sure, because monkey king has bomb barrage, explosive trap, mine field, shrapnel bomb, suction bomb, surprise gift. That all does bleed, yet I have gotten the bleed upgrade 0 times in like 6 runs on him now, and I usually loop at least once as well in the runs. So it should have shown up by now.

[Powerhorder]

strange i have used a similar build with houndmaster 1st weapon and got bleed upgrades

[locusofthought]

Been doing Elementalist, Monkey King, and Legionnaire since the update and I've seen % chance to apply Burn, Poison, Bleed, Doom, and Slow. With none of those characters have I picked up a Shadow skill, so that is ruled out as a reason to acquire Doom. Not sure if I acquired a Poison-Doom synergy before or after I acquired Doom % on attack. I think before.
Of all five, Burn has been showing up the most (and usually ignored the first few times). I did pick up % chance on critical attack for bleed last run I think.
I would definitely say they aren't common. Playing Monkey King, I saw Burn and Bleed but not Poison or Doom. Elementalist has seen all but Bleed so far.

[pocbame]

This makes no sense because damage over time effects are actual ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. When you get to 10+ loops you cant apply more than 6k stacks before they fall off anyway even with beams, and it does like 0.01% of the bosses hp per second so its worthless. Why would such a useless mechanic get nerfed? lol

[Silverstorm]

Its tied to your abilities now, you need an ability to cause "X" negative effect first to be able to get offered "All your attacks now apply "X" negative effect" upgrade, its pretty stupid

[nanoUSB]

I just did a run with the Monkey King, started with his bleed weapon, but went all in on Holy powers during the run. With the starting power, I picked a few upgrades to Bleed, and after dropping it (was the only natural Bleed-applier I ever had in that run), I not only kept getting Bleed upgrades, but after picking the Bleed-Poison synergy even a few Poison upgrades.

So from this run, I would extrapolate that all these DoT upgrades, including synergies as well as upgrades to the synergizing DoT, all come down to what your powers apply naturally, and once you picked up some upgrades, they're locked in and remain in your upgrade pool