"Tomb Raider has sold 3.4 million copies, failed to hit expectations"

[StupidBunnySuit]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-26-tomb-raider-has-sold-3-4-million-copies-failed-to-hit-expectations

[Citizen Badger]

That's 3.4 million copies without counting any digital sales, don't forget.

[KeAIL]

This will sell no end on the new consoles when they come out!

[GrimAquatic]

I'm pretty sure they already covered the development cost, maybe even marketing cost. They just thought they'd sell more. That's just how corporations work,

[Schiller]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Cloak & Badger:

That's 3.4 million copies without counting any digital sales, don't forget.

That's the total sales, digital sales included. Square Enix blames Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs and Hitman: Absolution and the North American market for their losses.

[StupidBunnySuit]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Von Schiller:

That's the total sales, digital sales included. Square Enix blames Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs and Hitman: Absolution and the North American market for their losses.

No, it doesn't count the digital sales. The article and the document SE provided says so. Still, if 3.4 million isn't enough, I don't think the digital sales would make much more of a difference to them.

[AlHudsonFX]

Few games can sell 5M or more what the hell they were expecting?

[Dreakon13]

ZOMG, guess all the people who hated the game were right.

[Tusken GA]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dreakon:

ZOMG, guess all the people who hated the game were right.

No, the game is selling great; 3.4 million physical units sold in just less than a month is a great record.

It's not amazing, but then not every franchise gets to be Call of Duty, selling millions upon millions of units day one.

It most likely broke even already given the fact that it generated between $204 million and $187 million on physical sales alone (not adjusting for currency conversion). Add in the unreported Steam sales and you definitely have quite a sum there.

Sleeping dogs was an amazing game as well, I thoroughly enjoyed it and anyone who enjoys 3rd person action games should check it out.

[Tox Laximus]

They are just gonna have to use their imaginations and break away from the tired formula all games devs use now.

linear play > cut scene > button mashing interactive cutscene

[Dreakon13]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tuskan GA:

No, the game is selling great; 3.4 million physical units sold in just less than a month is a great record.

It's not amazing, but then not every franchise gets to be Call of Duty, selling millions upon millions of units day one.

It most likely broke even already given the fact that it generated between $204 million and $187 million on physical sales alone (not adjusting for currency conversion). Add in the unreported Steam sales and you definitely have quite a sum there.

I rather like the game personally, I was just pretending to be one of those folks whose eyes lit up when they read sales "failed to hit expectations". And you know those people exist.

It's important to grasp at whatever you can to justify your opinions on the internet.

[Big Boom Boom]

If you look at the breakdown, Tomb Raider sold 3.4m in less than one month however Sleeping Dogs and Hitman are not that fortunate. Hitman: Absolution sold 3.6m in nearly 5 months, Sleeping Dogs sold only 1.75m in nearly 8 months, and both have seen 75% discount on digital channels.

And Tuskan GA, now do you still believe that Tomb Raider sequel will not be affected by Thief 4? Squeenix is in deep red at the moment, they need a lot of justification to start working on Tomb Raider sequel.

[nospamail]

Kind of unrealistic sales expectations.

[Tusken GA]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Big Boom Boom:

If you look at the breakdown, Tomb Raider sold 3.4m in less than one month however Sleeping Dogs and Hitman are not that fortunate. Hitman: Absolution sold 3.6m in nearly 5 months, Sleeping Dogs sold only 1.75m in nearly 8 months, and both have seen 75% discount on digital channels.

And Tuskan GA, now do you still believe that Tomb Raider sequel will not be affected by Thief 4? Squeenix is in deep red at the moment, they need a lot of justification to start working on Tomb Raider sequel.

Yeah, actually I do. Causality doesn't start at the last rung; it starts at the first. If Tomb Raider gets affected, it will be by FFXIII, Sleeping Dogs, and Hitman Absolution underperforming and causing the publisher to lose too much money. In fact, it would probably go even further back than that, to whatever business decisions Square Enix made that caused their business to decline.

Thief 4 is simply one more game on their roster. If it's successful it's possible it could save the company, but the only way Tomb Raider won't get a sequel at all is if Square Enix goes out of business. Why? because of the games they've released in the past few years, Tomb Raider has been the most successful. Thief 4 could surpass it, but it's not going to draw resources away from it simply because it's an untested product.

Both Eidos Montreal and Crystal Dynamics receive a budget that is independent of the other's. Square Enix says how much they have to spend and one developer spending less or more of that budget does not affect the other's ability to do the same.

If one company receives a reduction it would be because Square Enix was struggling financially, not because the other game drew too much. As a result the cause of the reduction would not be the other game, it would be the publisher.

And to summarize, if Square Enix is suffering financially, it isn't because of Tomb Raider or Thief 4. It is because of older games that failed to ship enough titles and business practices that encouraged a major loss of capital.

[Blade12775]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Von Schiller:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Cloak & Badger:

That's 3.4 million copies without counting any digital sales, don't forget.

That's the total sales, digital sales included. Square Enix blames Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs and Hitman: Absolution and the North American market for their losses.

You need to read the artical again my friend. 5th paragraph down "Today's numbers, published in Square Enix's latest financial report, do not count digital sales."

[dhr09]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Big Boom Boom:

And Tuskan GA, now do you still believe that Tomb Raider sequel will not be affected by Thief 4? Squeenix is in deep red at the moment, they need a lot of justification to start working on Tomb Raider sequel.

You forget that Crystal Dynamics owns the rights to Tomb Raider not Square Enix, And CD is owned by Edios interactive which is owned by Square Enix. So Thats three different companys really even though they are divisions in the same co. So if Square does go under that doesnt mean that Crystal Dynamics does. Crystal Dynamics has been bought and sold before. No reason to believe they can not be again.

So the Question of weather or not there will be a sequel depends on the profitability To Crystal Dynamics, not nessessarily Square Enix. So what you would have to watch is how Squares troubles affect Crystal D.

Also the games listed above are from different game companies they only shared square as publisher.