Why is this game racist towards AMD

[Zion_Shall-Fall]

So this game is crashing so much. I-ve got an i5 3.2G + a brand new rx480, 8 gb......i am trying to enjoy this game but it keeps crashing at certain points. Ive tried everything, changed settings, reduced quality to low, etc. I started playing it on high and it worked beautifully in the first few chapters, but then at that scene where you jump off a bridge, it started crashing hard. Now the crashing is getting more and more frequent. Is this an AMD issue or a CPU issue.

[NilSatis]

If you have the latest relive drivers (and freesync) I think they have some issues with this game engine. I havent installed this to play using the latest drivers but the Evil Within works on a similar version of this engine I believe and has real problems on the latest driver.

The only way to make it work correctly is to eliminate any vsync implementation or to run the game in borderless fullscreen mode and use Windows own vsync. This seems to make that game run as it is supposed to....not sure if that applies here, but in that case it was the latest relive drivers that have caused the problem.

Not sure if its the same case here. Try rolling back to the last crimson driver or trying to run the game in windowed mode and let us know whether that helps. I have an r9 390 so maybe this problem is limited to the rx 480. Will try to install this game this weekend and test on mine. I did have it installed briefly before and it worked great. (~er non steam copy)

[NilSatis]

Hmm yeh, just tried; runs like crap on my r9 390 too. It never used to though when I played it before so I think it must be these drivers. Shame, as they work great for nearly every other game aside from ones using this engine. No idea why. Will have a play and try to tweak some stuff.

[NilSatis]

Ok to make this game run well, you need to make a Texture cache folder; and rename the exe to x32 rather than x64. The game seems to run infinitely better once this is done. To do the last bit you need to download a bat to exe convertor. There are plenty of them around and here is a link to the instructions on how to do it from a reddit post. Works much better after this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/58vk4i/rx_480_wolfenstein/

Note: I havent had any crashes in this game so Im not sure if this is an unrelated issue to do with the rx 480 but in any case doing the above will help get decent performance. I would leave the cap at 60fps (even on a 144hz monitor set as native 120hz) however, but thats personal preference, there is a thread on how to get rid of this cap too in these forums should you need to do this too. Have fun. :)

[AMD718]

Originally posted by NilSatis:

Ok to make this game run well, you need to make a Texture cache folder; and rename the exe to x32 rather than x64. The game seems to run infinitely better once this is done. To do the last bit you need to download a bat to exe convertor. There are plenty of them around and here is a link to the instructions on how to do it from a reddit post. Works much better after this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/58vk4i/rx_480_wolfenstein/

Note: I havent had any crashes in this game so Im not sure if this is an unrelated issue to do with the rx 480 but in any case doing the above will help get decent performance. I would leave the cap at 60fps (even on a 144hz monitor set as native 120hz) however, but thats personal preference, there is a thread on how to get rid of this cap too in these forums should you need to do this too. Have fun. :)

Hats off to you, sir. You've found a fix for the crashing on my RX 480. As a bonus, performance is significantly better now too!

For everyone else, here are my notes from implementing the above, to make it easy:

[Crashing / Performance]
Browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wolfenstein.The.New.Order\ (or whatever drive/dir contains your TNO)
rename WolfNewOrder_x64.exe to WolfNewOrder_x32.exe
Create WolfNewOrder_x64.bat in same dir and with contents "start WolfNewOrder_x32.exe"
Download / install Bat To Exe Converter (e.g. F2KO http://www.f2ko.de/en/b2e.php)
Use Bat to Exe converter to convert WolfNewOrder_x64.bat to WolfNewOrder_x64.exe in same dir (default options for B2E prog)
dir should now contain:
.\WolfNewOrder_x32.exe
.\WolfNewOrder_x64.bat
.\WolfNewOrder_x64.exe

Browse to %localappdata%
Create dir MachineGames
Create dir MachineGames\Wolfenstein The New Order
Create dir MachineGames\Wolfenstein The Old Blood (in case you have it now or get it later)

[Skip Intros]
browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wolfenstein.The.New.Order\base\bink\ (or whatever drive/dir contains your TNO)
Rename the loadvideo_pc_xboxone.bik to loadvideo_pc_xboxone.bikX
Rename the menu_credits.bik to menu_credits.bikX
Rename the tungsten_outro_hg.bik to tungsten_outro_hg.bikX

Lastly, make sure you disable in-game V-Sync

I can now run at high or even ultra, even with 8192 shadow resolution at perfect frame rates. I'm not experiencing any dips below 60 FPS that I can see. At medium or low the RX 480 is barely idling. So, definitely go for at least High.

The only issue I have left is nasty screen tearing with v-sync off, but that is not a problem exclusive to this game. If I turn v-sync on in the game, performance suffers (naturally) but it also introduces even worse tearing! Weird. It's like vsync on gets broken somehow by the above fixes. In any case, I'm not complaining now.

Finally, the game is playable! Time to play through this game and then move on to Old Blood. I may even start this over from scratch since it is playing so much better now!

Thanks again NilSatis !

[klawsterfobia]

The above fixes worked for me and my RX 470. Thanks NilSatis and AMD718!

[NilSatis]

Glad they helped, but really I just found this stuff in a reddit post. Helped me too loads :D have fun with the game guys! Thanks for writing out those instructions, should be easy for anyone to do now! The game is good fun...so well worth persisting.

[Conundrum]

I've already tried the cache folder with no luck, but I haven't tried the renaming of the exe yet. Kind of stupid if that works (a filename shouldn't matter...how the file is coded/written should), but I've seen stranger things before...

[✠Blitz]

Originally posted by AMD718:

Originally posted by NilSatis:

Ok to make this game run well, you need to make a Texture cache folder; and rename the exe to x32 rather than x64. The game seems to run infinitely better once this is done. To do the last bit you need to download a bat to exe convertor. There are plenty of them around and here is a link to the instructions on how to do it from a reddit post. Works much better after this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/58vk4i/rx_480_wolfenstein/

Note: I havent had any crashes in this game so Im not sure if this is an unrelated issue to do with the rx 480 but in any case doing the above will help get decent performance. I would leave the cap at 60fps (even on a 144hz monitor set as native 120hz) however, but thats personal preference, there is a thread on how to get rid of this cap too in these forums should you need to do this too. Have fun. :)

Hats off to you, sir. You've found a fix for the crashing on my RX 480. As a bonus, performance is significantly better now too!

For everyone else, here are my notes from implementing the above, to make it easy:

[Crashing / Performance]
Browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wolfenstein.The.New.Order\ (or whatever drive/dir contains your TNO)
rename WolfNewOrder_x64.exe to WolfNewOrder_x32.exe
Create WolfNewOrder_x64.bat in same dir and with contents "start WolfNewOrder_x32.exe"
Download / install Bat To Exe Converter (e.g. F2KO http://www.f2ko.de/en/b2e.php)
Use Bat to Exe converter to convert WolfNewOrder_x64.bat to WolfNewOrder_x64.exe in same dir (default options for B2E prog)
dir should now contain:
.\WolfNewOrder_x32.exe
.\WolfNewOrder_x64.bat
.\WolfNewOrder_x64.exe

Browse to %localappdata%
Create dir MachineGames
Create dir MachineGames\Wolfenstein The New Order
Create dir MachineGames\Wolfenstein The Old Blood (in case you have it now or get it later)

[Skip Intros]
browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wolfenstein.The.New.Order\base\bink\ (or whatever drive/dir contains your TNO)
Rename the loadvideo_pc_xboxone.bik to loadvideo_pc_xboxone.bikX
Rename the menu_credits.bik to menu_credits.bikX
Rename the tungsten_outro_hg.bik to tungsten_outro_hg.bikX

Lastly, make sure you disable in-game V-Sync

I can now run at high or even ultra, even with 8192 shadow resolution at perfect frame rates. I'm not experiencing any dips below 60 FPS that I can see. At medium or low the RX 480 is barely idling. So, definitely go for at least High.

The only issue I have left is nasty screen tearing with v-sync off, but that is not a problem exclusive to this game. If I turn v-sync on in the game, performance suffers (naturally) but it also introduces even worse tearing! Weird. It's like vsync on gets broken somehow by the above fixes. In any case, I'm not complaining now.

Finally, the game is playable! Time to play through this game and then move on to Old Blood. I may even start this over from scratch since it is playing so much better now!

Thanks again NilSatis !

Worked for me, ty mate (:

[NilSatis]

Originally posted by Conundrum:

I've already tried the cache folder with no luck, but I haven't tried the renaming of the exe yet. Kind of stupid if that works (a filename shouldn't matter...how the file is coded/written should), but I've seen stranger things before...

Think this simply tricks Catalyst AI (as we all know AMD drivers are terrible at opengl games rendering) into "not knowing" the games .exe name and therefore not having any settings for it self applied. Im not entirely sure about this however. In this case then you would think that altering anything in Relives interface wouldnt work; havent tested to see whether this is the case.

[Ramontique]

I can confirm that uninstalling the AMD Crimson driver and letting Windows install its own driver prevents the game from crashing (at the rooftops for example). I think it's because Catalyst AI is now intergrated into Crimson. Thanks to whoever originally posted this suggestion.

/edit: only renaming the executable wont work because Crimson has global settings as well.

[Gasivodo]

I'm playing on a Phenom 9850 :-P

[NilSatis]

Originally posted by Ramontique:

I can confirm that uninstalling the AMD Crimson driver and letting Windows install its own driver prevents the game from crashing (at the rooftops for example). I think it's because Catalyst AI is now intergrated into Crimson. Thanks to whoever originally posted this suggestion.

/edit: only renaming the executable wont work because Crimson has global settings as well.

At least on Windows 10, windows will just install a slightly older version of AMD Crimson, if you let it install its own drivers, not sure how this helped you but glad it did. Which drivers were you on before this; and is performance any better with the ones you have now (which version?)
If windows doesnt reinstall crimson and installs something else then you need to make sure you are doing a complete clean of drivers and all old amd folders as something sounds a bit odd here...should be a driver from around june time last year I think.

You can still use RadeonPro to disable catalyst ai, as it is still in there somewhere even with a new driver upgrade, or you could in AMD Crimson. Im on the latest Relive drivers however, not sure if these alter things.
If you do decide to do this and it works for you let us know if there is any performance increase.

Yeh im not sure how the renaming of the file helps as it was an old fix I found that made no sense to me either, but it does seem to help....or something does.

[glenn9171]

Runs fine on my AMD 7870.

[AMD718]

Before the above "fixes & workarounds" I was maybe able to get a few minutes to a half hour in at a time before abrupt CRASH, which asbolutely killed the mood and made the game highly unenjoyable. After the above "fixes & workarounds", I played straight through (probably about 6 hours straight of uninterupted TNO) and finished the game without a single additional crash.

Now that the game is no longer crashing, I can say that is actually is a very good shooter. The ending was, for me, sad & slightly disappointing though.

Final note, I've applied the same fixes/workarounds above to OB and they seem to apply equally. I'm only an hour into OB, but so far not a single crash.

BTW - I'm running latest Crimson on my RX 480 (16.12.2) and I do have ReLive installed.

[BuhbuhNu]

Originally posted by AMD718:

Originally posted by NilSatis:

Ok to make this game run well, you need to make a Texture cache folder; and rename the exe to x32 rather than x64. The game seems to run infinitely better once this is done. To do the last bit you need to download a bat to exe convertor. There are plenty of them around and here is a link to the instructions on how to do it from a reddit post. Works much better after this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/58vk4i/rx_480_wolfenstein/

Note: I havent had any crashes in this game so Im not sure if this is an unrelated issue to do with the rx 480 but in any case doing the above will help get decent performance. I would leave the cap at 60fps (even on a 144hz monitor set as native 120hz) however, but thats personal preference, there is a thread on how to get rid of this cap too in these forums should you need to do this too. Have fun. :)

Hats off to you, sir. You've found a fix for the crashing on my RX 480. As a bonus, performance is significantly better now too!

For everyone else, here are my notes from implementing the above, to make it easy:

[Crashing / Performance]
Browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wolfenstein.The.New.Order\ (or whatever drive/dir contains your TNO)
rename WolfNewOrder_x64.exe to WolfNewOrder_x32.exe
Create WolfNewOrder_x64.bat in same dir and with contents "start WolfNewOrder_x32.exe"
Download / install Bat To Exe Converter (e.g. F2KO http://www.f2ko.de/en/b2e.php)
Use Bat to Exe converter to convert WolfNewOrder_x64.bat to WolfNewOrder_x64.exe in same dir (default options for B2E prog)
dir should now contain:
.\WolfNewOrder_x32.exe
.\WolfNewOrder_x64.bat
.\WolfNewOrder_x64.exe

Browse to %localappdata%
Create dir MachineGames
Create dir MachineGames\Wolfenstein The New Order
Create dir MachineGames\Wolfenstein The Old Blood (in case you have it now or get it later)

[Skip Intros]
browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wolfenstein.The.New.Order\base\bink\ (or whatever drive/dir contains your TNO)
Rename the loadvideo_pc_xboxone.bik to loadvideo_pc_xboxone.bikX
Rename the menu_credits.bik to menu_credits.bikX
Rename the tungsten_outro_hg.bik to tungsten_outro_hg.bikX

Lastly, make sure you disable in-game V-Sync

I can now run at high or even ultra, even with 8192 shadow resolution at perfect frame rates. I'm not experiencing any dips below 60 FPS that I can see. At medium or low the RX 480 is barely idling. So, definitely go for at least High.

The only issue I have left is nasty screen tearing with v-sync off, but that is not a problem exclusive to this game. If I turn v-sync on in the game, performance suffers (naturally) but it also introduces even worse tearing! Weird. It's like vsync on gets broken somehow by the above fixes. In any case, I'm not complaining now.

Finally, the game is playable! Time to play through this game and then move on to Old Blood. I may even start this over from scratch since it is playing so much better now!

Thanks again NilSatis !

Hey AMD 718, where is localappdata, is it in steam?