This should (could) be a $40-60 game.

[SHARKPLUSH]

That is all. I played hundreds of hours of Diablo 3, and I regret it. I'm sorry, Runic; I should have known you knew better. The atmosphere isn't dark, no, but atmosphere isn't what makes a dungeon slasher fun.

If you like this type of game buy it yesterday, and buy a copy for your neighbor. It's that good.

I'm not saying it's perfect. The UI is cluttered, and it has a bit of a learning curve. The meaning of some attributes ("frost armor" is it armor made of frost? frost resist?) are not immediately apparent. As someone who has played a lot of games, and who is an honest critic of games, this is hands down the best game I have bought this year- of half a dozen; and it was also the cheapest.

[Billaras 009]

+1
Would have bought it even if it was 40-50$.

[Majora]

You should check out the D3 forums right now. I swear the blizz drones are actually foaming out the mouth because of this game. A lot of hate on there for TL2 with a lot of sane people asking what's with all the butthurt.

Also a lot of posts saying they don't even want to play tl2 because of graphics or mods. I kinda shake my head at these comments. Modding is optional and the graphics aren't even bad.

[SHARKPLUSH]

I was there when it happened, it's pretty funny.

Also, how dare they let me mod. Nothing good ever came from modding. Nothing. MOBA? ♥♥♥♥. CS? ♥♥♥♥. (etc etc)

[ColbaltSpade7]

Originally posted by Code V:

You should check out the D3 forums right now. I swear the blizz drones are actually foaming out the mouth because of this game. A lot of hate on there for TL2 with a lot of sane people asking what's with all the butthurt.

Also a lot of posts saying they don't even want to play tl2 because of graphics or mods. I kinda shake my head at these comments. Modding is optional and the graphics aren't even bad.

The funny thing is Diablo 3 is a diablo clone because none of the Diablo staff worked on it... The people at Runic are the original Developers of Diablo and diablo 2.

Torchlight is more like Diablo's little brother. Diablo and Diablo 2 inspired it. Its like it grew because of it wanting to be like it but better and you can kind of get that feeling from the game like the creators put their heart into it. Diablo 3 looks and feels like that guy thats been out of touch with his family for a while and went into alcholism. XD I like my description personally. But I really don't see why people are so attached to a company rather than the people that actually you know created the francise.

[SHARKPLUSH]

I'm not hating D3 here though, it was a great game and I played it alot, and it was fun. It's very polished, it's UI is really slick, and making a hundred skeletons explode at once and watching all their individual bones fly everywhere does feel really cool.

But at the end of the day, COUGH inferno, you're getting murdered by unfair enemies.

[Majora]

Exactly chaos. Blind fan boyism is a bad thing and D3 is suffering because of it. Good thing i got my $60 back from that game and bought this one instead. lvl 47 outlander and loving every min of it.

[SHARKPLUSH]

The big thing for me was that playing D3 the white enemies never mattered in any capacity. They might as well have not even been there.

[ColbaltSpade7]

Originally posted by BluJay:

I'm not hating D3 here though, it was a great game and I played it alot, and it was fun. It's very polished, it's UI is really slick, and making a hundred skeletons explode at once and watching all their individual bones fly everywhere does feel really cool.

But at the end of the day, COUGH inferno, you're getting murdered by unfair enemies.

O I'm not hating on Diablo 3 I'm just being honest about it. One day some one has to be inspired by the games and make them, I value all kinds of creators... I'm just saying that the fanboyism with blizzard for Diablo 3 is unjustified in most of their excuses. Diablo 3 is still a fine game. I'm just saying people are silly.

[MattyFTM]

Originally posted by Code V:

You should check out the D3 forums right now. I swear the blizz drones are actually foaming out the mouth because of this game. A lot of hate on there for TL2 with a lot of sane people asking what's with all the butthurt.

Also a lot of posts saying they don't even want to play tl2 because of graphics or mods. I kinda shake my head at these comments. Modding is optional and the graphics aren't even bad.

To be fair, the Diablo III hate on Torchlight II related parts of the internet is just as bad. Here and on the Runic forum, as soon as anyone mentions anything about Diablo III in a positive light, possibly suggesting that certain elements may improve Torchlight II, they get shot down with a bunch of venom and hate.

They're two sides of the same coin. Diablo and Torchlight are similar games, both with passionate userbases. Everyone need to take a step back and realize that different people have different preferences, and let each other get on with enjoying their game of choice, without getting into schoolyard-style arguments over which game is better and why.

Of course, this is the internet and that's never going to happen, but I can dream, can't I?

[Rusty]

i like diablo 3 becuase of the ecomonoy, i like to feel like a big man being richer then people (yet poorer in real life)

[Wigler]

to me the main problem with tl2 is that its just too easy, i dont really mind the kiddie art style i actually enjoy it, and no, no way i would pay more than the 20 bucks i did :P

[Korrupt Triforce]

I like Torchlight 2, i even liked the original (even tho it was fairly repetitive). if i could afford TL2 for a 40$+ price, i would. but had i not been able to afford the game, i would never have played any sort of diablo-like ARPG (im saying diablo-like because i have played Borderlands and it's an ARPG but in the form of an FPS). I can't really say much else except that TL2 is a great game and i have very few problems with it.

[Atech66]

Great game.. the its not "kiddie art" its a graphics style that alot of people like.. fortunatly Runic appreciates thier fans and made a high quality game affordable.. im sure that made sales sky rocket.. 90 meta critic.. 20 bucks.. fans rave about it..they are smart.

[Green Skeleton]

The only reason this game is better than Diablo is that it's $20 instead of $60. They're essentially the same boring game.

[ColbaltSpade7]

Originally posted by Wigler:

to me the main problem with tl2 is that its just too easy, i dont really mind the kiddie art style i actually enjoy it, and no, no way i would pay more than the 20 bucks i did :P

I don't think its too easy, then again I play on elite and veteran. and I play on veteran just to get a ghist of the classes. there are 2 kinds of easy, the easy tat you get when you become skilled and figure out a strategy to use, or a game that is just easy because its broken... I tink Torclight 2 is eay just because people get better... for the most part... However, Beserker is just plain broken. XD