What else could the devs add to ND?

[Gloomygrim]

As every one here knows ND is a great game, but what could be done to make it that bit better?

I'll start with my ideas i guess.

Well the commander is the most important player in each game, well the abilities a com has are fairly limited and a dont really give that player much of a use other than buildings, even squad management can be done by a good troop player and in some prolonged games the com has a very boring job.

So why not give the com more abilities, the radar station for instance is just radar, so why not add an ability like Jamming, renders the opposing teams map static for X amount of time.
aybe a spy type ability that lets players read and hear the opposing team in the standard Team chat, thus giving squad chat more of a function. Adding in damage for the commander is pointless, arty strikes and the standard inflict damage are enough.

As for troops, there pretty well covered in most areas. Rather than the spy ability why not a spy class for stealth, Armed with only a pistol, but get radar, jaming and hacking boxes and there stealth abilitiy lasts twice as long as normal.

Could they improve the other classes/weapon set ups?

[Penta-Tonics]

For one thing, I have never had a boring game as a com. After all, you are constantly doing stuff, and if you aren't, you probably will lose the game.

The ablility to read the enemys team chat would only make no one want to use it. Since this game depends on teamwork, that's harldy what we need.

[Gloomygrim]

I did play on the real redstone server yeah, was my fav one to but can never find it now last time i was on it it crashed and the only one i can find is the false one and no i didnt have ND when they must have been running the trials not had a working PC for so long i fried my main board and GPU.

I always get bored as the com, once you reach a cetain point its sit there n drop supply station n keep droppin turrets in the same place when there destroyed. Just me though im not a massive fan of RTS element in this game (probly due to the speed of each round and the speed some people expect, cant get into the swing of it when its if something isnt done at the exact time yur demoted and get no chance to learn that role well enough to enjoy it lol)

Yeah the game requires comunication thats why i think hijacking your opponents main chat would be cool, that way your left with a commander who either gives away your plan or silence, this leaves you with only the squad chat left to co-ordinate attacks/defence with. Why make a game easier add more that makes things harder and challenging.

[Penta-Tonics]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jammie mann:

Yeah the game requires comunication thats why i think hijacking your opponents main chat would be cool, that way your left with a commander who either gives away your plan or silence, this leaves you with only the squad chat left to co-ordinate attacks/defence with. Why make a game easier add more that makes things harder and challenging.

All this would do is take a step towards CoD, where no one uses the chat other then to make fun of each other. It would not make the game better, in any sense of the word.
Not mad, just stating my opinion.

[Gloomygrim]

I have never played CoD or the other one every one raves on about, everything i have heard about it sounds like its a terrible game. You dont sound mad good to get an opinion on stuff thats not "that idea sucks cuz it does", least you back it up with reasons and explinations.

Ah misstype stickz sorry, ah that sucks man least it gets fixed soon. Not long had ND if im honest i wouldnt have bought it if it hadnt been so cheap, which im slightly ashamed of as i looked at it ages ago n thought nah looks crap.......how wrong was I lmao.

[Penta-Tonics]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jammie mann:

I have never played CoD or the other one every one raves on about, everything i have heard about it sounds like its a terrible game. You dont sound mad good to get an opinion on stuff thats not "that idea sucks cuz it does", least you back it up with reasons and explinations.

For the record, I like CoD. It's just a completely different type of game then ND.

I'm glad we can discuss it in a respectful, logical manner. Those are always more fun then the alternative.

[Gloomygrim]

Yeah i really dislike the agression some people have online, were all gamers and we all enjoy it so why act a tool.

I watched a few of my friends play one of the older CoD games and it was spawn prowlers and pop up snipers and very little of anything else and it just put me off playing it.

What do you think of tanks/APC's being added to ND and how do you think it would be best implemented?

Personally i like the APC idea as you could ferry people about and provide highly mobile assault and some cover, but the maps are really small so new maps would be needed (not a bad thing) but tanks....i dunno would be a bit much i think.

[Penta-Tonics]

Well, according to this and many other threads:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/17710/discussions/0/864951657796081866/
Unless ND has a sudden surge of players, it's not going to happen.

[Gloomygrim]

Yeah from that it really looks like armour isnt being added, which is a shame really.

O yeah ND really needs more players, i get why its over looked, but recent steam sales, im guessing, would have helped bulk out the player base. Not sure just as it is it can attract more players.

[Gloomygrim]

That i never thought of, makes sense specially if you have a server full fo good players and you have 4/6 games. Or a forced Com mode were 1 person is selsected at random and they have to be com until demoted or victory/defeat. The mutinies would have to be timed so you cand squirm out of it if your selected your com until you leave the server or X amount of time has passed until you can be removed. Good idea man i like it

[Penta-Tonics]

If this were added, it should be a alternate mode, not a default.
After all, in small servers, there are often only one person that even wants to com.

[Gloomygrim]

yeah i agree, though i only play on the server with the most people, i know thats a little stupid but i like the larger battles.

Main thing they need is an ad campaign, and more maps, from the workshop some of the maps there look promising. Nd deserves more exposure imho.

[Penta-Tonics]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jammie mann:

yeah i agree, though i only play on the server with the most people, i know thats a little stupid but i like the larger battles.

Nothing stupid about that. If you play at the time I do though, the player count often peaks at 5 per server.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jammie mann:

and more maps, from the workshop some of the maps there look promising. Nd deserves more exposure imho.

Well, believe me when I say making maps aren't easy. However, I do know that there are several maps in the making, including one of my own.

[=|Lexx|=]

I have an Idea. (I think I'll post it on the interwave forums as well but since I'm here...)
Sometimes commander needs an engi to patch-up some buildings but if he says or writes it and says its uber urgent, too many people switch to tech and a whole team gets imbalanced.
Maybe there should be a second counter in the "select class", that shows how many of the class are desired/needed right now (in addition to those shown, that are already selected).
On the Com-Side: there might be an "ordering" line, where, he sees how many people are in the specific class and then might change + or -
The perfect solution would be: click + engi then right click on the broken building, so the next person, who switches to tech, automatically sees where to go/what to do.
(like in age of empires, ordering spawning villagers to gather wood directly).

I hope You get what I mean.

[Penta-Tonics]

Oprindeligt skrevet af =|Lexx|=:

I have an Idea. (I think I'll post it on the interwave forums as well but since I'm here...)
Sometimes commander needs an engi to patch-up some buildings but if he says or writes it and says its uber urgent, too many people switch to tech and a whole team gets imbalanced.
Maybe there should be a second counter in the "select class", that shows how many of the class are desired/needed right now (in addition to those shown, that are already selected).
On the Com-Side: there might be an "ordering" line, where, he sees how many people are in the specific class and then might change + or -
The perfect solution would be: click + engi then right click on the broken building, so the next person, who switches to tech, automatically sees where to go/what to do.
(like in age of empires, ordering spawning villagers to gather wood directly).

I hope You get what I mean.

Interesting idea. I don't think we want to give the com so much control as to, say, force a player to play as a given class, but I tihnk your idea is pretty balanced.

[Gloomygrim]

Yeah i think that idea is pretty decent, encountered this last night, half way through a game red team pushed back and started to take out turrets, sup stations and power so com asked for an engi to repair it and next thing theres 4 people repairing buildings and only 3 left to defend.

I agree that the com shouldnt be able to force players to switch that would be a bit crappy, but maybe a nominate player for roll X would work.