Palworld

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Toryas Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:22am
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Why Sony?
Independent studios are way better than any "AAA" company. Then you went and hopped in bed with the enemy. This just guarantees I wont ever buy anything from Poketpair again. You were perfectly fine without them, now I see you as a shill and sellout. Good luck against Nintendo, you are gonna need it.
Originally posted by Bucky:
Originally posted by Toryas:
Independent studios are way better than any "AAA" company. Then you went and hopped in bed with the enemy. This just guarantees I wont ever buy anything from Poketpair again. You were perfectly fine without them, now I see you as a shill and sellout. Good luck against Nintendo, you are gonna need it.

We formed a separate company, Palworld Entertainment, with Sony Music and Aniplex to create Palworld merchandise and explore other ways to expand the IP outside of game development.

Palworld the game has nothing to do with this.

These are two separate entities.
Palworld Entertainment (Pocketpair, Sony Music, Aniplex) will make plushies, t-shirts and stuff.

Pocketpair will continue to make Palworld the game.

That is about all there is to it.
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funewchie Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:36am 
Well...
The fact it's only Sony MUSIC, plus Aniplex, that formed a joint venture to produce merchandise, music, and an anime.

There's potential in Palworld, so of course they're going to expand on it.
(Remember, Palworld made in one month what took Pokemon Scarlet/Violet an entire year to make)

It's what allows stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMswJbWaog0&sttick=0
Last edited by funewchie; Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:48am
The Rainmaker Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:25pm 
sony didn't buy them so why are you crying????
Chibi Life Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Don't waste your time. Steam discussions are filled with corporate loyalists
Toryas Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by The Rainmaker:
sony didn't buy them so why are you crying????
I didnt say they did, can you read?? I said they hopped in bed with them. They created a company together to squeeze revenue from people. Hence the shilling and selling out part. Give your head a good shake and learn how to parse information before reacting like a baby.
ShoGunOni Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Toryas:
Originally posted by The Rainmaker:
sony didn't buy them so why are you crying????
I didnt say they did, can you read?? I said they hopped in bed with them. They created a company together to squeeze revenue from people. Hence the shilling and selling out part. Give your head a good shake and learn how to parse information before reacting like a baby.

you sould take you own advise Give your head a good shake and learn how to parse information before reacting like a baby
McGoodGreen Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Toryas:
Originally posted by The Rainmaker:
sony didn't buy them so why are you crying????
I didnt say they did, can you read?? I said they hopped in bed with them. They created a company together to squeeze revenue from people. Hence the shilling and selling out part. Give your head a good shake and learn how to parse information before reacting like a baby.

But like...every successful franchise and IP has gone on to make merchandise. Are you going up to kids at a playground and calling them shills or sell outs for buying merch? Seems a little silly.

I mean, how dare they explore additional revenue streams in an attempt to maintain their independence. The fiends!

You sound like someone who wouldn't recognize when people are in bed together. But this forum isn't for explaining the birds and the bees. Go ask your parents.

What exactly scares you about this? You do know people can make joint ventures while maintaining their independence?

Its not like Pocket Pair and Sony came together and made a company called "Sonys Mega cool Entertainment", goodness, its called "Palworld Entertainment" and is a smart move for an indie studio that has no connections or knowledge on making merch.

I'd argue small guys being able to leverage the big names into arrangements in their favor is the opposite of selling out. Takuro Mizobe is the one in charge of Palworld Entertainment and it speaks volume about their upcoming strength that they are getting into collaborations and ventures with established titans.

You can cry sell out once they y'know, sell their control in exchange for dosh.
Chibi Life Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by McGoodGreen:
Originally posted by Toryas:
I didnt say they did, can you read?? I said they hopped in bed with them. They created a company together to squeeze revenue from people. Hence the shilling and selling out part. Give your head a good shake and learn how to parse information before reacting like a baby.

But like...every successful franchise and IP has gone on to make merchandise. Are you going up to kids at a playground and calling them shills or sell outs for buying merch? Seems a little silly.

I mean, how dare they explore additional revenue streams in an attempt to maintain their independence. The fiends!

You sound like someone who wouldn't recognize when people are in bed together. But this forum isn't for explaining the birds and the bees. Go ask your parents.

What exactly scares you about this? You do know people can make joint ventures while maintaining their independence?

Its not like Pocket Pair and Sony came together and made a company called "Sonys Mega cool Entertainment", goodness, its called "Palworld Entertainment" and is a smart move for an indie studio that has no connections or knowledge on making merch.

I'd argue small guys being able to leverage the big names into arrangements in their favor is the opposite of selling out. Takuro Mizobe is the one in charge of Palworld Entertainment and it speaks volume about their upcoming strength that they are getting into collaborations and ventures with established titans.

You can cry sell out once they y'know, sell their control in exchange for dosh.

Problem people fail to realize is that Sony has a reputation close to Satan does to the church lol. Sony's reputation will put anyone in the crossfire for dealing with them and Sony deserves this reputation.
Reeva! Nov 28, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
Depends how they deal with them. If they don't capitulate and stick to what benefits them, giving Sony a slice of the pie for services offered and nothing more, that's fine. When you let Sony or any other big boy company strongarm you into making anti-consumer deals, that's why people hate them.
Canadian_Hoser Nov 28, 2024 @ 3:48pm 
I didn't hear about this so did a quick google search.
it does seem like an odd decision based only at money.There is mention this is to facilitate the growth of the game but idk the specifics because there are none lol.
The merch aspect is obviously just another partner cashing in good timing for Christmas .
What do I expect knowing what I have seen in 40 years of gaming DLC's and I wouldn't even put it past them to add in a cash shop because that is typically the enticement to get partners on board.
Dont let the door hit you on the way out.
Canadian_Hoser Nov 28, 2024 @ 3:55pm 
I did want to add one thing and that is I don't share the idea small LLC's are any better than AAA devs because there is no distinction between the two AAA neither side are showing any signs of caring about the consumer it's all hit n miss you just need to find the good guys and support them.
Until we see anything bad come of this game I feel it deserves to be supported I cannot say the same for Blizzard that is NOT a consumer friendly business.
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Bucky Nov 28, 2024 @ 9:59pm 
Originally posted by Toryas:
Independent studios are way better than any "AAA" company. Then you went and hopped in bed with the enemy. This just guarantees I wont ever buy anything from Poketpair again. You were perfectly fine without them, now I see you as a shill and sellout. Good luck against Nintendo, you are gonna need it.

We formed a separate company, Palworld Entertainment, with Sony Music and Aniplex to create Palworld merchandise and explore other ways to expand the IP outside of game development.

Palworld the game has nothing to do with this.

These are two separate entities.
Palworld Entertainment (Pocketpair, Sony Music, Aniplex) will make plushies, t-shirts and stuff.

Pocketpair will continue to make Palworld the game.

That is about all there is to it.
Last edited by Bucky; Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:00pm
Tank Magnet Nov 29, 2024 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by Toryas:
Independent studios are way better than any "AAA" company. Then you went and hopped in bed with the enemy. This just guarantees I wont ever buy anything from Poketpair again. You were perfectly fine without them, now I see you as a shill and sellout. Good luck against Nintendo, you are gonna need it.

It's almost like, in order to get some backup in dealing with the multi-million dollar company presently trying to sue the crap out of them, they decided to get backup from the multi-million dollar company that has successfully told nintendo to gtfo in the past, and they get the added bonus of "paying" for that assist via their new joint company's merch earnings. It's literally a win/win for everybody.

As a reminder, had Palworld not taken off and thus fixed the issue, Pocketpair would have been, and was initially, quite literally on life support. Pocketpair in no way could have ever taken on Nintendo alone even with the success Palworld earned them without ending up back in the same position they were at before releasing Palworld.

Whinging and moaning about them "getting into bed with the enemy" when that decision means they can focus on making More Game instead of having to waste all those earnings on legal BS is absolutely, incontrovertibly, stupid and lacks any real common sense.

Additionally, just because they're working with Sony does not, in any way, mean they're giving up any major degree of development freedom, especially with the clear line in the sand Bucky here has pointed out exists (that being Palworld Entertainment for merch vs Pocketpair themselves for the actual game).
Toryas Nov 29, 2024 @ 12:11pm 
I understand why they did it, but I dont like it and thats ok. Ill choose where I put my money and why and Ill post about something when I feel passionate about it. Its the internet and I get that you dont get to have an opinion without getting roasted by those who dont share it. I find it sad people cant have a conversation without the trolls trying to destroy your mental health because they are unhappy with their own lives and have to find validation by insulting. Thank god for the block button.
Last edited by Toryas; Nov 29, 2024 @ 12:13pm
Chibi Life Nov 29, 2024 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Toryas:
I understand why they did it, but I dont like it and thats ok. Ill choose where I put my money and why and Ill post about something when I feel passionate about it. Its the internet and I get that you dont get to have an opinion without getting roasted by those who dont share it. I find it sad people cant have a conversation without the trolls trying to destroy your mental health because they are unhappy with their own lives and have to find validation by insulting. Thank god for the block button.

It's reasonable to be distrustful of Sony even if they are using Sony only for their merch, Sony will make demands from their game anyways mark my words. Sony will always find a way to cram their political garbage down everyone's throats one way or another.
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Date Posted: Nov 28, 2024 @ 10:22am
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