Game breaking bug (Saving and Loading)

[Abeltensor]

Been playing on the switch but also have heard reports of this on the PC as well.

I saved the game and quit out and when I came back later, I found that all of my gold, orbs and heart containers were just gone. This is completely unplayable with this bug. My only real choice at this point is to go and play the game from the start again because the game saved over my original save when I transitioned from one screen to another.

It seems like the game doesn't actually save the state of your quests when you save and quit. Like how wasn't that caught in basic QA testing or even during development? Did you guys just never turn off the game?

Edit: I did some testing to see what actually causes this. It seems like the save and quit bug only happens if you explicitly tell the game to save when you quit and it only happens sometimes. If you just quit without clicking save, it will use the last save which was made at the last transition screen. But this is troubling because it indicates to me that there is a chance that you could lose all of your stuff on transition and upon saving and quitting.

Im fine with the difficulty and the trial and error gameplay. There are some things that could be improved in terms of QoL like the speed of movement while carrying items, or the size of the map on the switch being ridiculously tiny. Maybe a save icon would be nice too, but I can't play your game if I just spontaneously lose my progress because the saving feature isn't working properly. I hope this gets fixed but I honestly don't have much hope that my old save will be usable even if they fix the bug given that it just took away my stuff. Unless you add flags or something to the save system to change the state of the game based on the quests finished, then I just don't see it happening.

[MAZ]

I cant conti,ue in rodia because the girl is not appearing on the bridge after you sneak past the guards

[stereoking]

I can second this. Just loaded my game and lost all extra hearts, money and orbs.

[Naps Team]

We are aware of the bug and fixing it, however, despite being frustrating, this doesn't heavily affect the gameplay.

[Naps Team]

The state of quests and side quests is not affected.

[Doremus]

Originally posted by Naps Team:

We are aware of the bug and fixing it, however, despite being frustrating, this doesn't heavily affect the gameplay.

Hi there is the same bug on nintendo switch version (1.1.0)

[shane.jenkins2]

I'm the same been enjoying the game money and orbs and hearts keep getting lost cant buy anything :(

[Gallynéa93]

Originally posted by Naps Team:

We are aware of the bug and fixing it, however, despite being frustrating, this doesn't heavily affect the gameplay.

Hi there, I had the same issue, I started playing loaded my save that had 4 heart, 130 coins and 18 orbs on and when when I arrived in Rodia from the well, i suddenly noticed i had lost all of my extra heart, coins and orbs. How can you say this doesn't heavily affect the gameplay ? it means all the farming and questing done for the money and heart have just "gone" as if I hadn't play. I just lost 5 hours of my time. Will I be able to recover my progress or do I assume i have to restart everything ? With the difficulty of the first dungeon i can tell you I so not feel like restarting all over again !!

[AdelineRG]

Originally posted by =LM= Doremus0:

Originally posted by Naps Team:

We are aware of the bug and fixing it, however, despite being frustrating, this doesn't heavily affect the gameplay.

Hi there is the same bug on nintendo switch version (1.1.0)

Yeah, confirme, I get 7 orbs, die in water and when I restart on transition, I lost all my orbs ...
Orbs is necessary to open some portal, so yes it heavily affect the gameplay.

Please make a patch quickly to PC and switch version, thanks !

[Abeltensor]

Originally posted by Naps Team:

We are aware of the bug and fixing it, however, despite being frustrating, this doesn't heavily affect the gameplay.

Yes, it does heavily affect the gameplay to have quest rewards simply ripped from your save file effectively bricking it. That you can't see that is really kind of messed up. And its not just that you lose items, the way the game handles the state of the world after loading is really demented as well. That you can kill an enemy, die and have that enemy still be dead, causes hard locks in progression where players can't continue to play the game because the quest state won't progress. The same is true for move-able objects. How you guys didn't catch this during development or QA testing is beyond me and that you are going to just brush off me by saying that I didn't just waste 5 hours of my time on a save file that is now softlocked is insulting.

Originally posted by Naps Team:

The state of quests and side quests is not affected.

Yeah I am aware and that is why this is actually even worse. I can't go back and get those heart containers or the gold after its been deleted because the quest is already completed.

If I could refund this game I would but its on the switch so I can't. I normally really like supporting indie devs, but you guys just clearly haven't figured out that you need actual programmers, level designers and a QA team to help you build your games. You guys keep getting the same criticisms and yet keep making the same mistakes (referring to your older games btw). Either you don't care or are just oblivious. That you withheld review keys until the day of the launch seems to indicate that you know full well about these problems too which makes it all the more egregious. I'm a developer myself, I know you can't please everyone, but this is just getting ridiculous. I know taking criticism is hard, but I am not making these criticisms to put your work down, frankly I wanted to play this game and like it but you are making it hard for me to want to do that anymore.

[Elythiel]

Originally posted by Naps Team:

We are aware of the bug and fixing it, however, despite being frustrating, this doesn't heavily affect the gameplay.

Originally posted by Naps Team:

The state of quests and side quests is not affected.

Man, this looks like a 10 years old comment. We aren't asking a hand from a friend while knocking up stuffs in our garage, but to a professional to whom we bought a product to fix it. The game is flawed ( i didn't say unplayable, im not trying to despise your work there, because i do like the game ), so don't try to make useless statement on what works as intended ( because there it was a poor choice, it makes the bugs even worse ), it's even more frustrating. this kind of behavior usually draws the line between a refund request and a player willing to wait for a quick patch.

[AdelineRG]

I hope your patch may be retroactive, I think it's possible, you know where the orbs were collected because the state is saved (ex : a hole dug in the earth with the shovel), you know how orbs may be used, so you can gave back the orbs, and for the heart it's the same, with the flag quest, so I hope that after the patch, we can recover our orbs and our lost hearts...

because it's not a little game that only lasts a few hours, it's a zelda like and I don't want to restart the game from the beginning, because of lost hearts.

thank you in advance for your understanding.

[mechaneck]

Originally posted by Naps Team:

We are aware of the bug and fixing it, however, despite being frustrating, this doesn't heavily affect the gameplay.

It's also happening on Playstation. 20 hours in and lost one heart, 1600 coin and 32 orbs.

[Seik909]

temporary fix :
use cheat engine 7.3 with this cheat table to restore lost coin and orbs.

link ;
cheat engine 7.3 : https://www.cheatengine.org/downloads.php
cheat table B.T.G.O v1.0.0.CT : https://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?t=17224

;)

does anyone have the option choise reset every time the game start?

[Belakor]

same here ... lost orbs on load ... plz fix ;)

[HisBangalore]

Same bug for me on Nintendo switch. As the dev says it doesn't heavily affect gameplay (for me) as I'm still able to play and progress through the game, but it's certainly a hindrance on being able to buy a shield after losing all my money or teleport without any orbs, for example.