That Bard Mini Game in Tiltren Tomb Is Completely F####ing ridiculous Stupid & Impossible

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I have tried over 100 times and always get that F###ing "Your performance isn't good enough"!

With ANY Motor Nerve & Control or Deficit that is completely totally NOT possible

I have the most minor (from testing medically) residual affects from a stroke and THAT MINI-GAME is not doable - makes this game really ♥♥♥♥♥♥

[erome5578]

Originally posted by araxdebold:

Another level 0 Troll.. Do not argue with him..

HILARIOUS 😅😂🤣!

[Nelsons other eye]

Originally posted by Citizen_Psyko:

Why are people whining incoherently to devs for not specifically thinking about them individually over a the wider general public? So a part of the game is tougher for you. And hey that's great you guys apparently have a reason for being fundamentally incapable of completing a portion of this game that isn't that you suck or are a general failure at life, but could you do everyone if not yourself a favor and not complain to hurdles in regards your own intrinsic debilitating differences to other humans in the same way people complain about games being to hard with no difficulty slider because they suck or are a general failure at life. It just isn't good for your own soul to project those things in the same light. You have a functional limitation in which you could calmly attempt to inform the devs and hope they not only see it but have time to actively carve out a very specific solution for a very specific type of limitation. And even if they can't/won't cater to those specific needs it still wouldn't in any way be a negative event. To shun or judge so harshly for such a simple game play mechanic is such a strange logic to follow. Would you complain about games that use the mechanic as a core function that can't be altered or removed? Or would you simply not even bother looking at that game. I assume you would the later as most would. Don't harbor such ill will towards your differences instead celebrate that unlike the vast majority of people who just flat out suck at using a mechanic you will never have to worry about being the same level of failure as they will always be. You may never be considered good at it either but take pride in being assured a neutral spot. It's not like that many people are elite tier athletes and I never will be one even if you let me start over at 15 years old to try again, but man wouldn't be weird if I were upset if I never had to worry about having the bare minimum work out and diet regiment most of us barely even attempt achieving?

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[Robin of Spiritwood]

Originally posted by Citizen_Psyko:

Why are people whining incoherently to devs for not specifically thinking about them individually over a the wider general public? So a part of the game is tougher for you. And hey that's great you guys apparently have a reason for being fundamentally incapable of completing a portion of this game that isn't that you suck or are a general failure at life, but could you do everyone if not yourself a favor and not complain ..

You can improve your mood by -
a) Not read the complaints? It's less effort.
b) Not complain about them? Since you're so capable, less effort should be easy.

People can and should comment about their game experience in the game forum. Expressing frustration is nothing new here, or in any game forum.

If there's a feasible way to modify/debug/improve the game accessibility to a wider public, that means more revenue.
More revenue = more games.

There are 3 ways to improve the Music minigame.

- Get a better match between the music beat and the clickable nodes. By retiming the nodes, and stopping when the music does. That would make it much better.
- Make the nodes a little bigger, add a colour change as the get close to the clickpoint.
- Add a slider to control the overall speed of the music and nodes, tie it to the reward money.

[Khalunka]

Originally posted by Nelsons other eye:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph

Perfect.

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You can improve your mood by -
a) Not read the complaints? It's less effort.
b) Not complain about them? Since you're so capable, less effort should be easy.

People can and should comment about their game experience in the game forum. Expressing frustration is nothing new here, or in any game forum.

If there's a feasible way to modify/debug/improve the game accessibility to a wider public, that means more revenue.
More revenue = more games.

There are 3 ways to improve the Music minigame.

- Get a better match between the music beat and the clickable nodes. By retiming the nodes, and stopping when the music does. That would make it much better.
- Make the nodes a little bigger, add a colour change as the get close to the clickpoint.
- Add a slider to control the overall speed of the music and nodes, tie it to the reward money. [/quote]


Thank You very much all are positive and all would be of assistance. Thank You most especially for the difference in approach and thought

Yes I let some of the frustration got the better of me. Too often for too many of the comments above I would wish them to traverse the metaphorical mile in others shoes.

One thing I did suggest is using key strokes as that is a simpler interface and has much less latency.

The true ignorance is the blithe presumption that these sort of issues "only" affect small percentages. or just the elderly. More fool them lifetime expectation of a significant stroke impairment is close to 25%

Frustration at gross failure to even approach pre-event capacity is an issue for me and many others,

Wonder how many on being given CT scans or MRI's would show the telltale sign's. Modern studies are clear the percentages more than double.

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As for Citizen_Psyko your shallowness , ignorance and general failure to either read or comprehend are clear to all.

As is your lack of empathy and perspicacity.

With Stroke impacts on at least 25% of people this is not a small dismiss-able %. That actual numbers on retrospect are much higher clearly did not penetrate your selfcenteredness.

Games are Supposed to be fun and any element that stumbles on a trait shared by many is self limiting self disadvantageous and simply bad design whether due to thoughtlessness or lack of consideration matters not.

Please don't preach to those who have dealt with what you have no frame of reference for.

Part of the lesson is to let out the frustration and then try to harness the anger and ride it. Bottling such up is the worst option.

[Robin of Spiritwood]

You could make the most of it and just RP having a crappy Bard.
It could be worse. You could be in the audience... Did you know that after you get the lute and play in Taverns, the patrons will chuck vegetables at you? Ha, it only happens if you really suck.

Ask me how I know.

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Originally posted by Robin of Spiritwood:

You could make the most of it and just RP having a crappy Bard.
It could be worse. You could be in the audience... Did you know that after you get the lute and play in Taverns, the patrons will chuck vegetables at you? Ha, it only happens if you really suck.

Ask me how I know.

Thanks - bye the bye just where bleep does one actually get a / the Lute

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It is more than a little odd that one gets quest items that are instruments but can't have the bard Use them - that is also un-thinkly bad design or bad execution or both

[Noquid]

yea I got to that part in the Tomb and tried maybe 5 times. Anyone know what solid white vs. solid red is? I was hitting the notes and most were solid white but every now and then there was a red note. I hope you have to have a lute, otherwise there will be a lot of pissed off tavern folk...if I ever get to that point. Now watch fatigue set in and you have to "rest" after playing a song :) Eat the veggies they toss at you.

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Solid white is perfect. Red is off timing - saw a lot of that. Especially with a note on one string the 2 close on the far string.

What I never understood was some notes have a white circle with a grey inside??

It says you don't have to be perfect but actual practice suggests it must be bloody close!

I've had as few as 4 "reds" and still got that ##### demeaning response - is super irritating at best when struggling

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Ok this one draws on the Game achievement Stats - if they at all accurate then that "sing" game really is a major pinch point . I got a more physically able mate to do it (and even he struggled).

BUT the achievements say ONLY 26.7% of players has completed the Tiltren Tomb. That indicates about 3/4's gave it up as a waste etc. That is a rather tell number.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by BrennanTate:

Ok this one draws on the Game achievement Stats - if they at all accurate then that "sing" game really is a major pinch point . I got a more physically able mate to do it (and even he struggled).

BUT the achievements say ONLY 26.7% of players has completed the Tiltren Tomb. That indicates about 3/4's gave it up as a waste etc. That is a rather tell number.

Man, you really should go out more. Seeing how much of a tantrum you're throwing over one small mini game that doesn't really impacts game that much.

Being handicapped is okey, asking for help and accessibility is okey, being a tantrum throwing jerk is not.

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Well "Dexter"

Such sage not advice from the completely ignorant and totally judgemental,.

A "strange" response to a factual point.

Unhelpful, of no value and really in need of a mirror.

[Noquid]

"ONLY 26.7% of players has completed the Tiltren Tomb."
That doesn't mean 73.3% failed the bard song. It means 73.3% of players haven't completed the Tiltren Tomb. I "completed" the Tiltren Tomb and failed the bard song.

It reminds me of that game console game "Rock Band".