How long would it realistically to get all of this game's achievements?

[TheyCallMeRadec]

Not a fan of using SAM. Just using my free time to complete my relatively small library. This one's gonna take years, I'm assuming?

[TheyCallMeRadec]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

Hm, thought I set my profile to public. Didn't think I had anything privately restricted. I'll check it out.

Did you play on web, too? You have a lot for 300 hours, yeesh!

[Kunovega]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

Hm, thought I set my profile to public. Didn't think I had anything privately restricted. I'll check it out.

Public profile isn't default public games list, two different settings, one under the other, it changed a few years ago and they made everything default private sometime around 2018

Anyway, now you know where to see hidden achievements, on the global list I linked earlier or when comparing stats, like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/triggerthehappy/stats/1454400/achievements/compare
Either lists hidden (at least the names anyway)

[Kunovega]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheyCallMeRadec:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

Hm, thought I set my profile to public. Didn't think I had anything privately restricted. I'll check it out.

Did you play on web, too? You have a lot for 300 hours, yeesh!

Looks like the save file he imported hit 1 year on October 6th

So much to do so much to see
Manage a cookie legacy for at least a year.
Unlocked Oct 6 @ 9:12am

Steam hours would only track steam time, not prior.

[Neutral Star]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh FinalplayerRyu:

And if someone wants to speedrun it: sacrifice the garden seeds over and over again for the +10 sugar lump boost.

It would be far, far, more efficient to just grow juicy queenbeets.

If you play actively, then I'd strongly disagree, even if you are very lucky and get four juicy queenbeets at once, you still can get every other seed while those a still growing unless you're very unlucky, I guess.

[Triggerhappy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheyCallMeRadec:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

Hm, thought I set my profile to public. Didn't think I had anything privately restricted. I'll check it out.

Did you play on web, too? You have a lot for 300 hours, yeesh!

Oh, I don't play 100% legit. I haven't "cheated", but I did exploit it by changing the pc clock to a later date to get a bunch of sugar lumps. I didn't realize I could even do that until I changed it to christmas to make it easier to get the neverclick achievement. Also, I did play the original when it first came out. I stopped playing it once I got all of the achievements. I didn't know he was even updating it until it released on steam. Currently working on getting the absolutely horrid stock market 10mil achievement, and the 100% seed bank garden one. I almost have the 7,777 golden cookies. I don't plan on wiping the garden until the very last one I need though.

[Kunovega]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheyCallMeRadec:

Did you play on web, too? You have a lot for 300 hours, yeesh!

Oh, I don't play 100% legit. I haven't "cheated", but I did exploit it by changing the pc clock to a later date to get a bunch of sugar lumps. I didn't realize I could even do that until I changed it to christmas to make it easier to get the neverclick achievement. Also, I did play the original when it first came out. I stopped playing it once I got all of the achievements. I didn't know he was even updating it until it released on steam. Currently working on getting the absolutely horrid stock market 10mil achievement, and the 100% seed bank garden one. I almost have the 7,777 golden cookies. I don't plan on wiping the garden until the very last one I need though.

An exploit that gave you months/years worth of extra sugar lumps is still a cheat LOL

It also gave you the 1 year achievement (which in turn gives you more milk which gives more production from kitten buffs)

[Triggerhappy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kunovega:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

Oh, I don't play 100% legit. I haven't "cheated", but I did exploit it by changing the pc clock to a later date to get a bunch of sugar lumps. I didn't realize I could even do that until I changed it to christmas to make it easier to get the neverclick achievement. Also, I did play the original when it first came out. I stopped playing it once I got all of the achievements. I didn't know he was even updating it until it released on steam. Currently working on getting the absolutely horrid stock market 10mil achievement, and the 100% seed bank garden one. I almost have the 7,777 golden cookies. I don't plan on wiping the garden until the very last one I need though.

An exploit that gave you months/years worth of extra sugar lumps is still a cheat LOL

It also gave you the 1 year achievement (which in turn gives you more milk which gives more production from kitten buffs)

I put it in quotes because there is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ means of cheating, and I haven't used it yet. And some people consider autoclickers and savescumming cheating, but it's all really just exploits and tools. Exploiting a game isn't quite the same as cheating. I can point a big finger at skyrim about that. Walking into a wall while sneaking next to the bear at the beginning of the game for a few hours to build up sneak levels, or travelling while using telekinesis to crank skill levels (the closest equivalency) isn't cheating per se either; it's just abusing the game mechanics.

[Kunovega]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kunovega:

An exploit that gave you months/years worth of extra sugar lumps is still a cheat LOL

It also gave you the 1 year achievement (which in turn gives you more milk which gives more production from kitten buffs)

I put it in quotes because there is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ means of cheating, and I haven't used it yet. And some people consider autoclickers and savescumming cheating, but it's all really just exploits and tools. Exploiting a game isn't quite the same as cheating. I can point a big finger at skyrim about that. Walking into a wall while sneaking next to the bear at the beginning of the game for a few hours to build up sneak levels, or travelling while using telekinesis to crank skill levels (the closest equivalency) isn't cheating per se either; it's just abusing the game mechanics.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ meaning of cheating? Where are these officials? Where and when do they meet to define such things?

At this point I'm fairly certain you don't know what either "cheating" or "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" means, you're just making things up to justify your own opinion.

It's difficult to hold a conversation with someone if they are using their own definitions of words, so let's cover the basics real quick:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:  one who administers the rules of a game or sport especially as a referee or umpire

The closest thing to that for Cookie Clicker would be Ortiel the developer. Unless you can show me where he stated changing the clock to exploit your time played is not cheating, then your exploit is a cheat. It's not a function of the game, you just straight up lied to the game about what your time/date was and got benefits for doing it.

Now, he has said he doesn't care if you cheat, but he hasn't spent much time defining what is or isn't cheating. He even put in a couple of cheater flags for specific types of cheating that were easy to detect, other types can't be detected easily so he didn't bother. The game can't know that you lied to it about what date/time a save was created because it simply allows you to import any of them, no matter how old they are.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cheat

cheat:
to influence or lead by deceit, trick, or artifice
to practice fraud or trickery

You tricked the game into behaving as if it was a different date, this is cheating. Does the developer (the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) care that you did this? Not really, but it is what it is, and trying to pretend that an exploit isn't a cheat is just silly.

What other officials did you have in mind? Gaming journalists? Oh wait, they agree with me too, read:
https://www.thatvideogameblog.com/cheat-vs-hack-vs-exploit/
Here's a short quote for you:

Exploits are another thing players often like to know about to help them beat a game. These are not cheats, which are intentionally coded into the game, or hacks, which are clever ways of playing the game, but ways of exploiting bugs or oversights in the game’s design to make things easier on yourself. If for example you find a weird thing in a game that allows you to get more coins or ammo when logically you shouldn’t be able to, using that to boost your resources is using an exploit.

Using exploits is seen as the same as cheating, because you are playing the game in a way it isn’t supposed to be used, but it can also be a good way to get past the ‘grindy’, less challenging parts in things like RPGs. Exploits are usually discovered by players themselves and posted online.

As you can see, there are subtle differences between the different ways of cheating at a game, but all of them can make playing easier.

From a purely technical standpoint it could be argued that you didn't even really use an exploit. Typically an exploit is something in the game itself that was not an intended way to play, in this case you didn't even really use a game exploit. you used a third party program to exploit a weakness in the game itself to cause it to generate more than you normally would have gained. Changing your OS clock has more in common with using cheat tool in this case than it does using a game exploit. You altered something outside the game to trick the game into a false result and kept the advantage. I've never seen anyone who wouldn't call that a cheat unless it's to try and lie to themselves to protect their own ego.

I mean, what ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sources are you claiming to use here? We can examine many if you wish, basically anything I can search is going to list exploits as cheating:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_exploit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_online_games

And oh, you want to talk about autoclickers? Let's do a quick google search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=is+using+an+autoclicker+cheating&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS954US954&oq=is+using+an+auto&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i20i263i512j0i512l2j0i20i263i512j0i512l4.3715j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

That's over 7 million results and the majority of them will tell you that using an autoclicker is in fact, cheating. You'll find many results like this:

Anything that's not implemented in the game itself and gives you an edge over other people is cheating,

Now I could go on and list you literally millions of more sources that prove me right while you attempt to argue the semantics of the word labels trying to somehow justify that third party programs and exploits aren't cheating, but really, you're just making the wrong arguments here.

An autoclicker in a clicking game is as much a cheat as an aimbot is in a shooting game. It really is just that simple, another program giving you an advantage in the game over how the game itself is built. Just like using an exploit or in your case your OS to trick the game into giving you rewards for an amount of time you didn't actually play, of course it's cheating.

But STOP... right now, STOP, before you try and make some silly argument about how I'm wrong or to justify yourself; stop and consider what I'm actually saying and what it means in relation to this game:

It just doesn't matter.

You're trying very hard to defend your actions when you simply don't need to. This isn't a competitive game. There are no rules against cheating. The only "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" here is the developer and he quite frankly doesn't care if you cheat or use an autoclicker or whatever else.

My comment noting that you were cheating wasn't meant as an insult, or to tell you not to do it, or in any way to imply what you can or can't do, it was a simple observation of your actions with no other judgement attached.

I use autoclickers in clicking games, it's a cheat and no one cares. There's even a bunch of mods you can download or script yourself that automate parts of the game for you. Are they cheating? Yes, but does anyone care? No, it's not a competitive game.

Single player games you can mod, cheat, exploit, do whatever you want and play however you want, there's no governing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ body telling you that you can't.

If this were a competitive game where you were hurting other peoples play experience, it would matter, but it isn't.

I don't care if you cheat, it wasn't meant as an insult when I said it. But it does annoy me when I see people try and twist the meanings of words or try to classify something in a way that tries to justify it in a way that makes no real sense.

You don't need to justify or defend what you did, it's just a little harmless cheating in a single player game, not even the developer cares if you do it.

[Triggerhappy]

Yes, there is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ means to cheat in this game, like the konami code. You just change the name of your bakery and you're given options to cheat, and it was purpose-built to do so, and you get an achievement for doing so. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheating. Holy ♥♥♥♥ dude get over yourself.

[Kunovega]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

Yes, there is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ means to cheat in this game, like the konami code. You just change the name of your bakery and you're given options to cheat, and it was purpose-built to do so, and you get an achievement for doing so. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheating. Holy ♥♥♥♥ dude get over yourself.

What's your point? That's just one of many possible ways to cheat.

You seem hellbent on pretending that no other way exists.

As I said, there's no point denying it, there's no rules against it. You just don't like the label even though it's allowed. Try actually reading what I wrote with an open mind.

[Triggerhappy]

I think it's pretty ironic you saying I'm trying too hard to convince you that I'm not cheating by writing fifty paragraphs explaining to me that I am.

Get over yourself.

[Kunovega]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

I think it's pretty ironic you saying I'm trying too hard to convince you that I'm not cheating by writing fifty paragraphs explaining to me that I am.

Get over yourself.

You aren't trying to convince me, I said you're trying to convince yourself, which is sad.

You should get over yourself and stop pretending that you aren't cheating. You know you are, I know you are. But the part that makes no sense is you throwing a fit and getting angry about it. I don't mind that you cheat, the developer doesn't mind that you cheat.

The only one that seems to care is you and you're desperate to claim that you aren't.

Get over myself? I'm not the one claiming to not be doing something that I'm actually doing. I use an autoclicker, it's a cheat and I don't care, and neither does anyone else, but it is what it is.

You've surpassed every legit player in achievements at the speed you're going, you flew past me and I'm cheating, but somehow you want to pretend you aren't, after explaining how you did but not wanting to admit that's what the exploit you used caused? Sorry buddy, that's not how that works.

My only interest is clearing up the terminology you were using. I'm not full of myself, I freely admit I used an autoclicker. You seem very stuck on pretending that your exploit isn't a cheat just to justify some weird anger and aggressiveness you have going on.

Seriously? You get over it, take a deep breath, you cheated and that's OK, it's not a competitive game, no one cares that you did so I don't know why you are so aggressively trying to pretend you didn't.

[AlpacaDGY]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

I think it's pretty ironic you saying I'm trying too hard to convince you that I'm not cheating by writing fifty paragraphs explaining to me that I am.

Get over yourself.

Relax, this guy ego immesurable. He won't stop seek things to argue until he ends in the top.

[Triggerhappy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh AlpacaDGY:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Triggerhappy:

I think it's pretty ironic you saying I'm trying too hard to convince you that I'm not cheating by writing fifty paragraphs explaining to me that I am.

Get over yourself.

Relax, this guy ego immesurable. He won't stop seek things to argue until he ends in the top.

Yah I've only been in the forum for like two days and I got that impression too.

[TheyCallMeRadec]

Bro, it's a game about clicking cookies. I honestly don't care whether you cheat or not.