Are there "REAL" Katanas in the game, or only Uchigatanas?

[Ares4X]

The Uchigatanas are the cheaper ones, so i wondering, if there are any "real" Katanas in the game?

[D. Flame]

Uchikatanas are basically the disposable tools of their day. You get it, use it for a bit, then dispose of it, and get a new one. Considering how quickly you toss away weapons and replace them in this game, it makes sense that they would all be the cheaper disposable blades.

[Ares4X]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Uchikatanas are basically the disposable tools of their day. You get it, use it for a bit, then dispose of it, and get a new one. Considering how quickly you toss away weapons and replace them in this game, it makes sense that they would all be the cheaper disposable blades.

Well, if you look at it that way, it actually makes sense, thanks.

[gungadin22000]

Uchi is Gucci.

[cniudae]

I think some of bond rewards are katanas and there is a Muramasa as reward , but i didn't pay attention to the models . Played most with paired swords and unarmed

[D. Flame]

I was hoping there was a boat oar weapon.

[twoya chest lizhet anall]

It's quite simple. Katana is a classification of swords with a sharpened blade on one side. For example, katana would be odachi, dao, uchigatana, falchion, sabre and so on. What we understand by the word "katana" is actually "uchigatana". This is a weapon for civilian use, unlike the military tachi.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by twoya chest lizhet anall:

It's quite simple. Katana is a classification of swords with a sharpened blade on one side. For example, katana would be odachi, dao, uchigatana, falchion, sabre and so on. What we understand by the word "katana" is actually "uchigatana". This is a weapon for civilian use, unlike the military tachi.

https://www.martialartswords.com/blogs/articles/katana-vs-uchigatana-whats-the-difference

[CHOPPACHINO]

What do you mean by "real" Katanas? Katana is a term for all Japanese bladed weapons. Every bladed weapon have the same kanji 刀(katana) in their name. Uchigatana is Katana

[gungadin22000]

Here is an informative video which should settle the debate at hand decisively: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paTW3wOyIYw

[twoya chest lizhet anall]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by twoya chest lizhet anall:

It's quite simple. Katana is a classification of swords with a sharpened blade on one side. For example, katana would be odachi, dao, uchigatana, falchion, sabre and so on. What we understand by the word "katana" is actually "uchigatana". This is a weapon for civilian use, unlike the military tachi.

https://www.martialartswords.com/blogs/articles/katana-vs-uchigatana-whats-the-difference

the information in the article is false. The term "katana" does not appear until the 15th century.
But there is a synonym for this word, namely Tō. In fact, they even have the same spelling - 刀. First, look at the articles in Japanese, since in other languages ​​in 90% of cases there will be misinformation

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by twoya chest lizhet anall:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

https://www.martialartswords.com/blogs/articles/katana-vs-uchigatana-whats-the-difference

the information in the article is false. The term "katana" does not appear until the 15th century.
But there is a synonym for this word, namely Tō. In fact, they even have the same spelling - 刀. First, look at the articles in Japanese, since in other languages ​​in 90% of cases there will be misinformation

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Japanese_Sword/vFS2iT8QjqEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA62&printsec=frontcover&dq=uchigatana

The word uchigatana can be found in literary works as early as the the Kamakura period, but at that time the blade was only used by people of low status and privates in the ranks. Most uchigatana produced at this early date were roughly made and because they were regarded as disposable, virtually no examples survive today.

[Ares4X]

Originally posted by CHOPPACHINO:

What do you mean by "real" Katanas? Katana is a term for all Japanese bladed weapons. Every bladed weapon have the same kanji 刀(katana) in their name. Uchigatana is Katana

Not exactly, the Uchigatana is considered to be the ancestor of the Katana.

[twoya chest lizhet anall]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by twoya chest lizhet anall:

the information in the article is false. The term "katana" does not appear until the 15th century.
But there is a synonym for this word, namely Tō. In fact, they even have the same spelling - 刀. First, look at the articles in Japanese, since in other languages ​​in 90% of cases there will be misinformation

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Japanese_Sword/vFS2iT8QjqEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA62&printsec=frontcover&dq=uchigatana

The word uchigatana can be found in literary works as early as the the Kamakura period, but at that time the blade was only used by people of low status and privates in the ranks. Most uchigatana produced at this early date were roughly made and because they were regarded as disposable, virtually no examples survive today.

打刀 - uchigatana ( https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%89%93%E5%88%80 )
刀 - katana ( https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%88%80 )

I have omitted some details in the classification and mentions, since a mention in sources without specification is a mention of a type of weapon.
And so uchigatana really does appear in sources as early as the 11th century, although they only become widespread in the 15th century.

[twoya chest lizhet anall]

Originally posted by Ares4X:

Originally posted by CHOPPACHINO:

What do you mean by "real" Katanas? Katana is a term for all Japanese bladed weapons. Every bladed weapon have the same kanji 刀(katana) in their name. Uchigatana is Katana

Not exactly, the Uchigatana is considered to be the ancestor of the Katana.

No.
Katana is a classification.
Uchigatana is what we are used to seeing and imagining a katana.
I sent you the links earlier, you can check it yourself

[Ares4X]

Yes i alredy read it, maybe you're right, but
https://katana.store/blogs/katana-vs/uchigatana-vs-katana