Wizardry: The Five Ordeals

Wizardry: The Five Ordeals

Dec 12, 2021 @ 2:00am
"Wizardry: The Five Ordeals" Release Date and Notice of Change
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kinberaied Dec 12, 2021 @ 2:55am 
心待ちにしていました。
hirekatsu Dec 12, 2021 @ 3:32am 
多大なご苦労があったと思いますが、発売してくださりありがとうございます。
17日を楽しみに待っています。
JCB Dec 12, 2021 @ 3:55am 
Really disappointing that you decided to remove all convenience for Steam users, and handle both the editor and scenarios download through other websites.
What was previously announced meant that people could create and download content from Steam with ease, and just a few clicks, which was very appealing, and a big plus to this release.

Now, we'll have to wait ages to download the editor from some website outside of Steam (that can be taken down at any moment, meaning users would no longer have access to the editor), and download campaigns also from other websites, which again can be taken down at any moment, and users would no longer be able to re-download this content.

So, and if I'm reading your words correctly, in an apparent attempt not to cause "discomfort" to the old users, as you call it, you cause "discomfort" to the "new" Steam users?
Why not have the editor both on Steam, and outside of Steam? And allow Steam users to use workshop to distribute their scenarios?

I really hope you reconsider this.
智犬(TomoInu) Dec 12, 2021 @ 3:59am 
発売日決定、本当によかったです。
エディタもより良いものとして使わせていただけること、お待ちしています。
アドリアン Dec 12, 2021 @ 4:22am 
待望の日に向けて心躍らせています。
ゲーム公開前に自作のシナリオの手直しをしたいので、シナリオ製作者が「公開/非公開」を切り替えられるツールの配布は迅速にお願いします。
ぱわはち Dec 12, 2021 @ 4:27am 
朗報じゃ~! 朗報が出たぞ~!!
shiromeshi1gou Dec 12, 2021 @ 4:41am 
発売決定うれしい!待ってました!年末やるぞ~!!
スパくん  [developer] Dec 12, 2021 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by JCB:
Really disappointing that you decided to remove all convenience for Steam users, and handle both the editor and scenarios download through other websites.
What was previously announced meant that people could create and download content from Steam with ease, and just a few clicks, which was very appealing, and a big plus to this release.

Now, we'll have to wait ages to download the editor from some website outside of Steam (that can be taken down at any moment, meaning users would no longer have access to the editor), and download campaigns also from other websites, which again can be taken down at any moment, and users would no longer be able to re-download this content.

So, and if I'm reading your words correctly, in an apparent attempt not to cause "discomfort" to the old users, as you call it, you cause "discomfort" to the "new" Steam users?
Why not have the editor both on Steam, and outside of Steam? And allow Steam users to use workshop to distribute their scenarios?

I really hope you reconsider this.
With just a few clicks, you can play external content, which is not a privilege of the Steam Workshop alone. This was originally conceived as a mechanism for multi-platform support, and the Steam Workshop was not the only way to do this, but only to add a dedicated "channel" for the Steam version.

Your concerns about the editor are probably valid. If so, you should support this game. A game that is supported by its users will last much longer.

Finally. The scenario for this game is a few dozen MB at most.
Last edited by スパくん; Dec 12, 2021 @ 4:57am
JCB Dec 12, 2021 @ 6:11am 
Originally posted by スパくん:
With just a few clicks, you can play external content, which is not a privilege of the Steam Workshop alone. This was originally conceived as a mechanism for multi-platform support, and the Steam Workshop was not the only way to do this, but only to add a dedicated "channel" for the Steam version.

Your concerns about the editor are probably valid. If so, you should support this game. A game that is supported by its users will last much longer.

Finally. The scenario for this game is a few dozen MB at most.

I play PC games for 40 years, so naturally, I'm used to install plenty of mods and user content from outside of Steam, long before Steam Workshop was a thing.
But, in my experience, after a couple of years the websites that host this user content are usually gone, and you want to re-download something and it's hard to find it.

That's why Steam Workshop support is very convenient.
There are games that are no longer available on Steam (for example, because the developers no longer exist), and the workshop files remain available.

With the editing tools possibly a year away from "proper" release, I hope you do re-consider adding Steam Workshop support in the future. :winter2019happydog:

As for supporting the game, despite being an English language user, and knowing the first version will lack a translation, it was always my intention to buy your game as soon as it's available on Steam, so count me in! :lunar2019wavingpig:
Last edited by JCB; Dec 12, 2021 @ 6:11am
Fantastic news, folks!

The postponement of the release ruined (my) Summer 2021, now the release saves Christmas 2021! :-)

Originally posted by JCB:
Really disappointing that you decided to remove all convenience for Steam users, and handle both the editor and scenarios download through other websites.

I am glad that there will be no dependency on Steam, this makes it more likely for a possible GOG release.
Last edited by Stasi-Kommandomöse Brunfthilde; Dec 12, 2021 @ 6:38am
JCB Dec 12, 2021 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by Stasi-Kommandomöse Brunfthilde:
I am glad that there will be no dependency on Steam, this makes it more likely for a possible GOG release.
You're glad the Steam version of the game won't take advantage of a Steam feature, because you want it to release elsewhere?

What does that have to do with anything?
Couldn't the Steam version have Steam Workshop support, and a possible GOG version have manual installation of user content?
スパくん  [developer] Dec 12, 2021 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by JCB:
Originally posted by Stasi-Kommandomöse Brunfthilde:
I am glad that there will be no dependency on Steam, this makes it more likely for a possible GOG release.
You're glad the Steam version of the game won't take advantage of a Steam feature, because you want it to release elsewhere?

What does that have to do with anything?
Couldn't the Steam version have Steam Workshop support, and a possible GOG version have manual installation of user content?
We understand about the functionality part of Steam as deep, but still what you say can't happen. In this regard, we have no way to help those who disagree with us. It's really unfortunate.

As a result, there is no longer a "special server" for devotees of Steam's functionality, so in this title, everyone gets access to the same library of user scenarios, no matter where they purchase. but at this point, we are not at the stage of discussing other store.
MINORU Dec 12, 2021 @ 2:17pm 
嬉しいです。年末年始の楽しみができました。平成で楽しませてもらったゲームを令和でプレイできることに感謝します。
bent Dec 12, 2021 @ 4:38pm 
Thank you for the update.
Please hire a native English speaker. Your English is very bad.
Fenrir Dec 12, 2021 @ 5:01pm 
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Funnily enough, those claiming about having to use an "external website" for DLC don't really realize how good they have it (or what they're asking for when it comes to Steam). You guys do realize the original game, so many years ago, had content/patches you downloaded through an external website too, right? It's not like this is anything new for the game.

While I do understand that it would be more convenient for you to have everything in one place, please stop being selfish and understand that this is already a monumental task as it is, bringing this game to Steam, and just deal with the DLC solution for now. It's not really a problem. The size is marginal at most and if your concern is whether or not the website will be trustworthy to download from... Well, they wouldn't tell you to get it from there if it wasn't, right?

At the end of the day, just be glad that we're finally getting this game in the modern era. You have absolutely no grasp of how much red tape this guy has to go through (and is STILL going through) just to make this happen. Anything from the Wizardry 8 era and before is an absolutely NIGHTMARE to handle in terms of licensing issues and it's why most companies and individuals avoid it like the plague because it's just not worth the hassle for them, and I honestly can't say I blame them. They're investing so much time, effort, resources, and money into this project, so I'm going to support them the best way I can.

Anyway! I expressed my gratitude on their Twitter account, so all I can do now is wait for early access to finally begin in a few days. Fortunately, this worked out in the end for me at least since I had a birthday recently and was thinking about what to spend this money on, lol.
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