Wtf is Symbiote?

[Cal]

All the information I could find was about A piece of Linux Malware called symbiote.

[SloppyJoppy]

if it wasnt for the malware

see if it wasnt for the malware they decided to put into all their games now i would have loved to play this, but oh well what can we do when corporations suddenly put in malware that shows them every single file and spec of our computer to them if we boot up the game, hey might as well give them our card info and say "go ham with it!". oh wait they will probably also get that from you if you have ever used the card on the computer.

how is this legal again?!

[treos100]

what's symbiote drm malware?

i got 2 search results looking for info on it...

1, brave ai says it's some form of linux malware (not sure what a userland lvl rootkit is since i use windows, not linux) and 2...a web3 block chain based drm made by some company called symbiote creatives?

i'm not sure as i think this might be the first i've heard of this malware.

regardless, i wish companies would stop putting malware in video games believing it serves some form of good purpose when it never does and only ever hurts paying customers who have been conditioned to accept and normalize paying for and allowing malware onto their pc's and now handheld pc's too.

[Sheakiru]

i saw someone else post their findings that it was related to a company called "Symbiote Creatives" but the only articles i can find on THEM related to DRM is that they are now associated with Theta who has an NFT-Based DRM

https://medium.com/theta-network/symbiote-creatives-creator-of-fuse-wars-blockchain-game-joins-theta-metachain-as-launch-partner-858b272d9b0f

[motsole]

Originally posted by Sheakiru:

i saw someone else post their findings that it was related to a company called "Symbiote Creatives" but the only articles i can find on THEM related to DRM is that they are now associated with Theta who has an NFT-Based DRM

https://medium.com/theta-network/symbiote-creatives-creator-of-fuse-wars-blockchain-game-joins-theta-metachain-as-launch-partner-858b272d9b0f

so I can blame symbiote if the game runs like sh*t.

[ImOnYourSide]

We don't need anticheat in a non live service Pve game

[motsole]

Originally posted by ImOnYourSide:

We don't need anticheat in a non live service Pve game

I think they've got it in there more to stop / slow down pirating than anything else.

[ImOnYourSide]

Originally posted by motsole:

Originally posted by ImOnYourSide:

We don't need anticheat in a non live service Pve game

I think they've got it in there more to stop / slow down pirating than anything else.

As long as I can still mod and cheat then it's cool. I love Borderlands because it isn't live service slop.

[Sheakiru]

some folks in reddit are saying its a linux rootkit and that its a kernel level program that boots itself before anything else on your pc...

still trying to look up what it ACTUALLY is with no luck

[motsole]

Originally posted by ImOnYourSide:

Originally posted by motsole:

I think they've got it in there more to stop / slow down pirating than anything else.

As long as I can still mod and cheat then it's cool. I love Borderlands because it isn't live service slop.

yeah that's one of the reasons why I enjoy this series too. too many Live service games do everything they can to screw you over.

[ImOnYourSide]

Originally posted by Sheakiru:

some folks in reddit are saying its a linux rootkit and that its a kernel level program that boots itself before anything else on your pc...

still trying to look up what it ACTUALLY is with no luck :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

EPICNNG the big time modder says it's not the same thing.

[ImOnYourSide]

Originally posted by motsole:

Originally posted by ImOnYourSide:

As long as I can still mod and cheat then it's cool. I love Borderlands because it isn't live service slop.

yeah that's one of the reasons why I enjoy this series too. too many Live service games do everything they can to screw you over.

Not only that they run out of content, EPICNNG makes game changing mods that make this series HIGHLY replayable. :)

[motsole]

Originally posted by Sheakiru:

some folks in reddit are saying its a linux rootkit and that its a kernel level program that boots itself before anything else on your pc...

still trying to look up what it ACTUALLY is with no luck :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

there's a chance it's something gearbox made

[Paulie]

not sure, but I know they've put spyware into all the borderlands titles as per the new EULA.

[★Böcchi Smörgåsbord]

Originally posted by Paulie:

not sure, but I know they've put spyware into all the borderlands titles as per the new EULA.

Jesus Christ when will you people stop spreading this easily debunkable misinformation?

[Junipercat]

They are not putting in malware. That is something completely separate.

Unfortunately they are using the same name, which even by itself doesn't sound like the best choice. What I've seen pulled up in searches is Gearbox's Symbiote (no association with the malware also mentioned) is an in-house DRM. And it might be run in addition to Denuvo.

That brings up further questions. Is double DRM appropriate? Is this in preparation for micro-transactions (the only reasonable reason I can think of for having it in a co-op PVE game)? And how will this affect system performance?