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ZombieHunter Sep 12, 2020 @ 8:47am
Starting fuel
Any way to set the sim to always start with full tanks? Whose great idea was it to start all planes with half a tank? In real life you are suppose to ARRIVE at your destination with at least half a tank. Taking off with half a tank is just stupidity.
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Biggles Sep 12, 2020 @ 8:49am 
Oh well, gives you YET one more thing to whine about. You're obviously 'the cup's half empty' kinda guy.
Last edited by Biggles; Sep 12, 2020 @ 8:50am
Maki Nishikino Sep 12, 2020 @ 8:50am 
Sadly not.
Dazven Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
In real life you are suppose to ARRIVE at your destination with at least half a tank.
Except they don't in real life.

Fuel is not a full tank every flight nor is landing weight meant to be half. It is a predetermined or pilot determined amount based on trip, reserve fuel, weight distribution (CG), weight in general (More weight equals less performance efficiency) as well as cost of fuel at different locations (Take as much as you can get for cheaper). It takes into account all those factors, how much is needed, and what extra is a reasonable amount needed for unexpected circumstances.

What we need is a calculation of trip fuel and a recommended reserve fuel amount.
CrashX Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:05am 
In real life you only need to land with 1.5 hours of fuel left or less I believe. Its definitely not half a tank you have to land with. I regularly use 30%fuel in the GA planes because better performance!
Maki Nishikino Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by CrashX:
In real life you only need to land with 1.5 hours of fuel left or less I believe.

The requirements depend on a few variables.
ZombieHunter Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:
Originally posted by CrashX:
In real life you only need to land with 1.5 hours of fuel left or less I believe.

The requirements depend on a few variables.
Maybe my CFI said half just so I'd never be low. He always wanted half when I got there.

Originally posted by Earl Grey:
Oh well, gives you YET one more thing to whine about. You're obviously 'the cup's half empty' kinda guy.
No I'm actually half full.

But complaining about this damn sim is another thing entirely. They dorked it up out of the gate. There is so much wrong and they probably just thought finish it in patches. So it is great for VFR and local flying and the terrain and all is awesome. But when you dig in and actually try the sim part of it beyond all the pretty bells and whistles it falls flat on its face. FSX did not have autopilot issues on launch. It had performance issues and other things but for the most part the sim worked. This thing is barely functional from an aircraft standpoint. So good luck if you want to fly across country without the Garmin 1000. My guess is they focused on that so Garmin didn't get pissed at their half ass implementation of it. And then the FMS and all seriously do not work at all. Yet you have a jet that relies on the FMS. And ATC is way better than XP11 for VFR yet they still do odd things. I just took off from Aurora near Chicago and it is clearly IFR and does not mean VFR minimums at all yet they cleared me for VFR. In FSX they will tell you negative the airport is currently IFR.

You can't advertise sim and then just make it pretty to cover up all the missing stuff. It is not a bad product but it does feel like BETA to me. Several key important features just don't work or barely work.
Last edited by ZombieHunter; Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:28am
Maki Nishikino Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
Maybe my CFI said half just so I'd never be low. He always wanted half when I got there.

Well I mean there are defined CFRs about this. Some aircraft I've flown I've found to have hilarious bad fuel gauges and I make dang sure that during preflight once I turn the Master Battery switch on and see their displayed level I look into the tanks to check their actual level. I've seen fuel gauges do weird things on the ground and in completely coordinated flight.
Last edited by Maki Nishikino; Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:37am
ZombieHunter Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
Maybe my CFI said half just so I'd never be low. He always wanted half when I got there.

Well I mean there are defined CFRs about this. Some aircraft I've flown I've found to have hilarious bad fuel gauges and I make dang sure that during preflight once I turn the Master Battery switch on and see their displayed level I look into the tanks to check their actual level. I've seen fuel gauges do weird things on the ground and in completely coordinated flight.
LOL. Yeah my guess is that he was being overly conservative. Nothing wrong with that.
ZombieHunter Sep 12, 2020 @ 9:41am 
Originally posted by Rawbowke:
Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:
Sadly not.
Utterly wrong.

When setting up a flight and picking an aircraft, click on Weight & Balance - add/remove fuel and weight there.
You didn't read. I said is there a way to make sure each plane starts up with full fuel. Not load in and then force you to add more.
Twelvefield Sep 12, 2020 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Earl Grey:
Oh well, gives you YET one more thing to whine about. You're obviously 'the cup's half empty' kinda guy.

More like a "tank half empty'.
Sgt. Nick Fury Nov 27, 2023 @ 5:03am 
SO lots of arguing over personal experiences and needless critical commentary, but not one answer? "How to start with 100% fuel?" Does someone have an answer or just snide vernacular for the OP? It's 2023 and this is still an issue. I can't for the life of me figure out how to start with 100% fuel. More over the Astro One is what I am using atm I need it to be 100% charge, as it is electric. I can't seem to get it to refuel (fully charge) or even repair and refuel.

A bit disconcerted by how unhelpful some people tend to be. If you don't have an answer for the actual questions why drive by with negativity? He had a good question.
Last edited by Sgt. Nick Fury; Nov 27, 2023 @ 5:06am
Rever Nov 27, 2023 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Sgt. Nick Fury:
SO lots of arguing over personal experiences and needless critical commentary, but not one answer? "How to start with 100% fuel?" Does someone have an answer or just snide vernacular for the OP? It's 2023 and this is still an issue. I can't for the life of me figure out how to start with 100% fuel. More over the Astro One is what I am using atm I need it to be 100% charge, as it is electric. I can't seem to get it to refuel (fully charge) or even repair and refuel.

A bit disconcerted by how unhelpful some people tend to be. If you don't have an answer for the actual questions why drive by with negativity? He had a good question.
Why necro a thread from three years ago to scald people? IMO it is 'needlessly critical commentary' to bring up old stuff to reignite a fight.
★Macman★ Nov 27, 2023 @ 9:35am 
ARRIVE with 1/2 TANK? Right I definately am throwing away those daft Fuel Calcs. The Game never matches our Routes we plot for Fuel properly even if we set any proper MIXTURE and fly efficiently. Why should I worry I must even DUMP FUEL.

Although the new AIRBUS 'Dragonfly' Program is trialling Jets in another's Slipstream just to save 5% except they too will be carrying enough Reserves regardless to not save carrying extra weight... OH PLUS FULLY AI PILOTS :steamhappy:
Last edited by ★Macman★; Nov 27, 2023 @ 11:25am
Sgt. Nick Fury Nov 27, 2023 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by Rever:
Why necro a thread from three years ago to scald people? IMO it is 'needlessly critical commentary' to bring up old stuff to reignite a fight.

Thank you of being another unhelpful example for no purpose. My reason was clear, it was a good question, and still is a good question, and I wish people would stick to questions, and answer if able, without feeling the need to respond negatively just so they have something to respond. I am unsure why people of your bent get jollies for responding just to respond, when you have nothing to add.....but clearly your in large company.
Last edited by Sgt. Nick Fury; Nov 27, 2023 @ 10:58am
Sgt. Nick Fury Nov 27, 2023 @ 10:53am 
I did figure out the Astro one, since it does not use fuel technically you will never get it to refuel, you have to look through cockpit (under your seat) and click on the battery while parked.......and it instantly charges it to full. (that's some fancy chargiung)

I still feel there should be an easier way to set up your fuel before any flight. This seems like a rather large issue to be so overlooked. Regardless of the rest (how much your supposed to have by flight end etc etc) It seems like you should be able to set up your fuel at the start of any flight. If there is a way I have yet to figure it out. Usually I just hit the repair and refuel button before I start. The fuel truck has yet to work for me. I feel like this is a big part of planning any flight and should be easier. If someone actually knows a way to accomplish that please do share. I am still discovering much, and maybe missed it.
Last edited by Sgt. Nick Fury; Nov 27, 2023 @ 11:00am
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