PMDG be aware!!

[Hiigara]

The PMDG 737 does NOT import flightplans created in MSFS. You need to PAY more for simbrief (is NOT free) to actually be able to use the PMDG. What a SCAM from PMDG

[Hayley]

what are you talking about? simbrief is free...

[Boomer]

lol

[Rever]

How is people not giving you free stuff a scam?

[Narf]

Simbrief is free, only the Navigraph subscription with the most current AIRAC cycle costs money.

And PMDG doesn't read here.

Anything else you'd like to embarrass yourself with?

[★Macman★]

I do confirm SIMBRIEF is FREE although it may not use the same AIRAC as MSFS nor your Plane. On the 1 time I could not access the SIMBRIEF site I was given the NAVIGRAPH site which does not mention SIMBRIEF on that Page and in doing so did make me panic thinking they were now gonna force it via Sales only. However, it worked again later.

I warned NAVIGRAPH never to do that especially as it is being built into many Planes to IMPORT at the very expence of losing the ability to have a choice of using the WORLD MAP Plans which should all be working to match same AIRAC yet they DO NOT.

Using SIMBRIEF allows us to select from a few choice Routes that do actually srepresent our Aircraft, although we are having to use the Nearest Guess SID/STAR as they do not match WORLD MAP.

You need to enter DEP/ARR in WORLD MAP however, if you want ATC to follow your IFR choice and RUNWAYS you set (or it did by used defaults). Else you will not get the IFR CLearance popup and have to request this once Airborne. The caveat being the ATC SOUND goes OFF after about 30mins regardless.

TBH, entering DEP/ARR, RUNWAYS and SID/STAR is not difficult in the 737 and may need SID/STAR added if in fact SIMBRIEF did not load these (often do not but can so must check to avert a double entry).

ASOBO = CONSISTENTLY BROKEN

[Monsoon]

Postat inițial de ★Macman★:

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You need to enter DEP/ARR in WORLD MAP however, if you want ATC to follow your IFR choice and RUNWAYS you set (or it did by used defaults). Else you will not get the IFR CLearance popup and have to request this once Airborne. The caveat being the ATC SOUND goes OFF after about 30mins regardless.

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Simbrief doesn't build your route, you do. You are still responsible for it. That includes building your route before you load your aircraft in the simulator if you are going to use inbuilt ATC (though its garbo).

Sounds like maybe you are having some frustration with your setup. Feel free to ask how any of us do our preflight rituals. in sim we have bugs with flight plans and atc, in real life, everything can bug out. It's just a sim specific thing you have to deal with if you aviate with MSFS.

[★Macman★]

SIMBRIEF bulds a suitable ROUTE for your chosen Aircraft after you enter DEP/ARR. It sets you the used RUNWAYS you can change. It then gives you options. We know this so not sure to contradict me.

[Monsoon]

Postat inițial de ★Macman★:

SIMBRIEF bulds a suitable ROUTE for your chosen Aircraft after you enter DEP/ARR. It sets you the used RUNWAYS you can change. It then gives you options. We know this sonot sure to contradict me.

Sim brief suggests routes built by others, used in real life, or you can build your own.

If sim brief had you fly into a mountain, and you followed it, did simbrief really build that plan that flew you into it, or did you fly into because you didn't check and tweak your plan, as you should if you aviate on MSFS.

[★Macman★]

Postat inițial de Monsoon:

If sim brief had you fly into a mountain...

Have you tested this to happen? Why would a Route in such location do this? I doubt that will happen. Only ATC do that to us.

[Monsoon]

Postat inițial de ★Macman★:

Postat inițial de Monsoon:

If sim brief had you fly into a mountain...

Have you tested this to happen? Why would a Route in such location do this? I doubt that will happen. Only ATC do that to us.

Bro, if I never tweaked my simbrief, I would have so many accidents. The ATC from ASOBO is bad, no one is denying that. However, you are not helpless if you decide to fly inbuilt ATC.

Simbrief is by far, the best and most important tool that a sim pilot has. But, like in real life, you don't pay attention to what you are doing with it, it can have very unintended consequences.

You ALREADY know that inbuilt ATC sucks yea? And that it doesn't like flight plans from simbrief. So you do something about it. In MSFS, to use simbrief effectively, you have to make sure your departure stand is correct, correct star loaded, correct approaches etc etc.

You do this in real life too. You have NOTAMS, You have failures, etc etc. Think of it as a nugget of realism in your sterile simulator.

[★Macman★]

I really expected SIMBRIEF Routes to be correct actually. If you have had them give too low ALT on VNAV then I can not understand why ppl sub to NAVIGRAPH at all. If what you say is fact then it is NOT doing what they say it does but is a gimmick.

[Monsoon]

Simbrief routes are generally correct, as the default suggestion it gives you is USUALLY real life.

If you aren't paying for it, you may have to do some legwork. 90 percent of the time it picks the correct sid/star, or one close enough. The other 10 percent are practice for real life, because you would use similar software IRL and if stuff isn't updated or you don't check it, your gonna have a bad time.

I guarantee any pilot that flies IRL is gonna spend a significant time on their flight plan, and not just pick the first one the debrief software spits out.

[Monsoon]

Listen man, let me tell you a little secret about simbrief.

When you download the plan, if you are gonna be flying with MSFS ATC, select NOSID/STAR when you download the plan. Then use Skyvector.com to look for your airport and pull up the charts. Build your own plan after importing simbrief into the sim on the world map. Select your departure stands, your sids/stars.

[★Macman★]

The thing SIMBRIEF helps with is us not having to guess the Routes by not using CHARTS. Having to know all the Aircraft Class Info should be part of a Sim else only a small portion of Players know how to use them. All I see on WORLD MAP about those is the WXYZ Options and I pick Z for Airliners.
The SIMBRIEF IMPORT can at times miss out SID/STAR loading and that does need checked. Sure a PILOT must do prior Homework but kids play this. It has totally no instructions to most of it nor utilises it. Thus SIMBRIEF is takes that burden. Perhaps it has been fixed now in AAU2 for VNAV but even that does not descend correctly in 747/787 as it prioritises Speed before ALT and not at same time plus stops us using SPOILERS for DRAG. Some it does work well enough until on APPROACH at least.

I would not BUY a SUB just because I am not a Pilot.

Postat inițial de Monsoon:

Listen man, let me tell you a little secret about simbrief.

When you download the plan, if you are gonna be flying with MSFS ATC, select NOSID/STAR when you download the plan. Then use Skyvector.com to look for your airport and pull up the charts. Build your own plan after importing simbrief into the sim. Select your departure stands, your sids/stars.

Yes you would do that if not wanting ATC but I want that. It all depends on the Plane & SIMBRIEF if they match up.

[Monsoon]

Postat inițial de ★Macman★:

The thing SIMBRIEF helps with is us not having to guess the Routes by not using CHARTS. Having to know all the Aircraft Class Info should be part of a Sim else only a small portion of Players know how to use them. All I see on WORLD MAP about those is the WXYZ Options and I pick Z for Airliners.
The SIMBRIEF IMPORT can at times miss out SID/STAR loading and that does need checked. Sure a PILOT must do prior Homework but kids play this. It has totally no instructions to most of it nor utilises it. Thus SIMBRIEF is takes that burden. Perhaps it has been fixed now in AAU2 for VNAV but even that does not descend correctly in 747/787 as it prioritises Speed before ALT and not at same time plus stops us using SPOILERS for DRAG. Some it does work well enough until on APPROACH at least.

I would not BUY a SUB just because I am not a Pilot.

Decend sooner.

I am not a pilot either, but I don't have that spoiler problem now.

EDIT:
It absolutely does have a tutorial. It's on the main menu.
My kid plays this too, he doesn't care about flight plans. I didn't when I was kid too.