Is there a reason why Scaled Fist Charisma bonus works with Sword Saint/Duelist Intelligence bonus, but Monk Wisdom bonus doesn't?

[HolyOne]

Seems to me it should be both or neither.

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by Razer:

After looking it up. Sword Saint doesn't even exist in Pathfinder as a Magus Archetype. So that's something Owlcat made up then.

Theyre called Kensai according to pfsrd
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/paizo-magus-archetypes/kensai/

[Razer]

Originally posted by CHAO$$$:

Originally posted by Razer:

After looking it up. Sword Saint doesn't even exist in Pathfinder as a Magus Archetype. So that's something Owlcat made up then.

Theyre called Kensai according to pfsrd
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/paizo-magus-archetypes/kensai/

Ah I see. Yea the description states Canny defense is the same as from Duelist. That definitely shouldn't stack then. Reported this bug.

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by HolyOne:

Originally posted by CHAO$$$:

yea, that doesnt look right
either an issue with duelist or with the respec method youre using as i mentioned in 1st post

I retrained at Hilor

I'm not using any mods apart from portraits

You can try to use this respec mod instead but no guarantee it gives a different result:
https://github.com/BarleyFlour/RespecMod
^This is the same as on nexus - nexus politics is the reason its on github. If you do use it make sure to pick a different profile pic - otherwise it gives you a blank image after your next reload.

Could still be just an issue with duelist or sth else. If you have one of the lategame DLC (like midnight isle) you can try making the character there without installing the mod to eliminiate/identify duelist as the thing causing the issue. I dont have the season 1 DLC.

Edit: Actually you can just test respec into wis monk + saint no duelist to see if duelist is the problem - easiest solution. Should prolly do that before bothering with installing mods.

For what its worth, duelist isnt a particularly good prestige class so you might just wanna skip it anyway.

[HolyOne]

I tried it without Duelist but still no WIS,

Also, SS and Duelist have stacked since forever,

[HolyOne]

Ok, so the retraining seems to be a problem, because I just tried it on a fresh character and now it seems to be working

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197990302192/screenshot/2399941883274767188/

So I guess I have to restart the game to try this version of the build, which I really, REALLY did not want to do. :(

[HolyOne]

So to answer my own question, the reason is BUG, because of course it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is.

Thanks, everyone who helped look into it.

[dszombiex]

I've noticed that sometimes Wis bonus to AC doesn't show up while you're sitting in Dresen (or crusade camp or whatever). You have to go out and get in combat before it gets displayed.

[HolyOne]

Originally posted by dszombiex:

I've noticed that sometimes Wis bonus to AC doesn't show up while you're sitting in Dresen (or crusade camp or whatever). You have to go out and get in combat before it gets displayed.

Sadly, that is not the case for me. The only reason I even noticed this problem is because I was getting hit too much in combat. :(