Unable to Recruit Reclaimers?

[eveofmana]

Beat the game, looked up how to fill my roster with the Reclaimers I failed to get playing normally. After many tries I got Regret and recruited with no trouble. Then Gloom showed, beat em, but he failed to be recruited ... I tried again and it failed 3 more times. Then the General showed and he failed to recruit ... Got his voice though.

What am I missing? Why won't they join me? Is the recruiting a additional chance upon the chance of them showing up?

[eveofmana]

Do I need to collect the rest of the Reclaimers or something to collect these guys? So far the others aren't taking more than one defeat to recruit, expect that Muramasa relic arsonal. Makes me think I need to defeat everyone before Mura, General, and Gloom will join me.

[eveofmana]

Nvm, found my error. I gotta fight *with* them as well as against them.

[Aurum Moon]

Solomon has to be recruited last, if I'm not mistaken, and if you manage to recruit everybody, that should mean you have one last voice unlock, too - Four.

[cyäegha]

beyond that, just fulfilling the requirements for them to unlock isn't always enough to actually get them to pop, as the percentages for a lot of them - the terrors, rouge cinderella and savior in particular - are exceedingly low
namely, you have a dice roll to determine if an invading reclaimer appears at all, then another roll to determine which particular reclaimer, and then a final roll as to whether recruitment is a bust or not

it'll probably take a fair few goes to get who you want

[Aurum Moon]

That'd explain why they added the Invasion Lure Beacon as an attachment...

[eveofmana]

Originally posted by TouyaShiro:

That'd explain why they added the Invasion Lure Beacon as an attachment...

Didn't even know this was a thing ... I'm off to hunt Nightmare.

[cyäegha]

Originally posted by TouyaShiro:

That'd explain why they added the Invasion Lure Beacon as an attachment...

yes, an attachment that even orbital[orbital-database.gitlab.io] can't quantify using hard numbers extracted from the game as whether it's actually making any real-world difference
+5 of something arbitrary shouldn't be taken to mean that it's an increase of 5%

were i to hazard a guess, i would envision that it's actually doing something like going from (using figures i've pulled from my ass) 145/255 to 150/255, which in reality is a mere 0.75% increase
put another way, i don't think the real-world benefit of that attachment is commensurate to the loss of other much more valuable attachments

[eveofmana]

Originally posted by TouyaShiro:

That'd explain why they added the Invasion Lure Beacon as an attachment...

Ummm so I hunted Online Nightmare (a) and instead of the lure, it gave me a BP for "Deadly Drive" ... However I can't find this anywhere in Factory, why? Also, why isn't there a wiki, or something. I'm getting stuck cuz info for this game just ... doesn't exist.

[cyäegha]

Originally posted by eveofmana:

Also, why isn't there a wiki, or something. I'm getting stuck cuz info for this game just ... doesn't exist.

Originally posted by cyäegha:

orbital[orbital-database.gitlab.io]

[eveofmana]

Originally posted by cyäegha:

Originally posted by eveofmana:

Also, why isn't there a wiki, or something. I'm getting stuck cuz info for this game just ... doesn't exist.

Originally posted by cyäegha:

[http://orbital-database.gitlab.io/web/index.html]orbital[/url]

Thanks, that helps. And it confirmed I can't access development of "Deadly Drive". I now know it's a cannon, but even "All Shoulder Weapons" comes up empty. Why don't I have access to crafting it when I have the blueprint?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2621088509
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2621088478

[Aurum Moon]

Originally posted by cyäegha:

put another way, i don't think the real-world benefit of that attachment is commensurate to the loss of other much more valuable attachments

For me, it doesn't matter as I've already got everyone, but if I were to do a new game I would probably value it highly regardless of how insignificant the chances are. I've played enough of this game at this point that I could beat things without attachments, though I admit that's with armor that is actually good to use...

Originally posted by eveofmana:

Ummm so I hunted Online Nightmare (a) and instead of the lure, it gave me a BP for "Deadly Drive" ... However I can't find this anywhere in Factory, why? Also, why isn't there a wiki, or something. I'm getting stuck cuz info for this game just ... doesn't exist.

Eat a lot of ice cream. You'll unlock a Secret Factory this way in the Ice Cream Parlor menu - the majority of blueprints that you get from bosses can be developed there.