Hardspace: Shipbreaker

Hardspace: Shipbreaker

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New player, Tutorial needs some SERIOUS love
I'll make this simple. I need a LOT more information on cut points, how not to damage panels, and what is considered 'acceptable' for salvage. Which container is used for what sort of salvage, etc... I'm literally at step 2 of the tutorial, where you get the wide cutter thing, and I have so little information on how to use it, I genuinely don't understand what I'm doing with it. It makes absolutely no sense why it won't work in one place (which would be the obvious cut point to my mind), but does work halfway through a panel I'm supposed to be trying to keep intact (Why? I have no clue! Why bother keeping a panel that's basically going to be slagged for raw materials intact?). Worse, the game didn't tell me which salvage point I was supposed to send it to (Processing or Salvage) and WHY, so I could make the determination what goes where in the future.

This is literally the tutorial guys! The part where you're supposed to be holding my hand and telling me what is what and why, and I can't even clear the second step of it? This needs some serious love, and a LOT more explanation before I can even make heads or tails of this. I'm starting to regret making this purchase....
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Not gonna lie, I had to run the tutorial 4 times through using a lot of trial and error to figure it all out while it was still very forgiving. It may not make you feel any better right now, but everything you need to know IS in there, they just don't point it out very well.

Use your scanner to see if your able to cut through different materials.
Looking at a piece of salvage that less than 5-10 m away will tell you what bin to put it in in a small square in the bottom of your screen.
Where to cut still hasn't made too much sense to me, but the penalty for putting bits of the wrong material in a container from sloppy cuts is pretty negligible.

In short, yes the tutorial needs a lot of help, but also it does do the job. Hope I helped.
Alright, I've gone through the tutorial again specifically for this post.
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Which container is used for what sort of salvage, etc...
The tutorial does tell you this. Quote Weaver :
"Once you've grabbed the antenna with your grapple, your HUD tells you where you should put it. You've got furnaces and processors on the left and right, while the barge is underneath the ship."
The steps here are to grab the antenna, notice your HUD (in this case, the bottom part near your O2 bar) tell you that the antenna gets put in the barge underneath the ship, and put it in there. From there you can repeat the same thing from every other object in the game (except cut points I guess, but you can just chuck these in the furnace, send 'em planetside or try to say hello to another spaceship passing by, they're worthless). This is highlighted in blue for the purposes of the tutorial.
https://i.imgur.com/OaWBmHY.png
There's also a big, appropriately colored prompt in the direction of the thing you gotta put the salvage into when you grab onto an object.
https://imgur.com/a/DR6RAI6
You can infer that from playing some more, but complex objects like nacelles, computer terminals, thrusters and reactors go into the barge. After that, it'll be on you to memorize what goes where. Most of what goes in the processor will be stuff like ship plating, that's at least a few dozen tons per ship. Most of what goes into the furnace will be scrap and basic structural things like walls and beams, although there are walls and beams that are made of titanium and other stuff that go into the processor as well. Seems like a lot right now, but you'll get the hang of it very quickly.

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I'm literally at step 2 of the tutorial, where you get the wide cutter thing, and I have so little information on how to use it, I genuinely don't understand what I'm doing with it. It makes absolutely no sense why it won't work in one place (which would be the obvious cut point to my mind), but does work halfway through a panel I'm supposed to be trying to keep intact

You're right on this. The splitsaw works really weirdly. Wish they're gonna rework it at some point. I only really use it for groups of cut points, tougher cut points and certain structural elements like the aluminum beams near the fuel sections of the refueling Javelins that are shaped like IO Interactive's logo, otherwise I use the basic cutter on anything else. Takes slightly more time but I know 100% how it works.
I will flatly admit I did not see where on the HUD it was marked. I was looking for the symbol on the HUD element that contained the PART at roughly center screen (where your grapple point is, and that little mouse-over HUD element that pops up about the part you're looking at)... makes zero sense to me that it would be down at the bottom and so out of the way I didn't even see it at all. That said, when I next try it, I will look for that.
When you have grabbed an item, there is a colour coded directional arrow at the edge of the screen telling you where to put it. Where that arrow is on the edge of the screen indicates the direction of the destination.
E.g. if the item goes in the barge, and the barge is below you to the right, then you will have a green arrow to the bottom right of the screen. It's frustratingly hard to see
I ran into a problem in the tutorial when I continued to salvage the entire tutorial ship during the first spacewalk. I cut up the remaining cube by burning off the braces so it was just a few square panels, and chucked them into the various spots. Went in, was allowed to purchase the splitsaw, then was told to continue cutting it.

Left the Hab, and the only order was to return to hab. Now, it wants me to buy a rank 3 grapple upgrade, but I am stuck at rank 2. Probably because I didn't do any of the orders associated with the splitsaw. Only thing I can do now is fail to buy the upgrade, or quit game.
I thought they fixed that, but maybe they didn't fix it entirely. The tutorial is scripted, you do certain things at certain times. But it has limited protection to stop you doing too much. If you do more than you're told to, you can break it like this.
I think the only solution is to reset your profile and redo the tutorial, this time not doing anything except what the tutorial tells you to do.
Just bought the game and honestly... the tutorial dialogue should probably hold your hand a lot more, especially given it's skippable. It's not obvious that you should push parts onto the barge in shift 1 rather than thrust them. We don't go over It's not obviously described where to cut things in shift 2, or that they don't in fact go in the barge because you're never alerted to the fact that there's UI callouts of where to send parts. This thread was really helpful so I'll give it another try later, but in a modern game if we're going to have a tutorial mode I really shouldn't have to self-discover basic gameplay concepts or UI in it.
When I played the tutorial for the first time, the game didn't reunlock the cutter after the grapple tutorial.

I tried to get 900 nanocarbon only with the grapple tool and after some time I thought I was supposed to rip apart the ship with decompression.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2346775360
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