Is a zoro/persian empire restoration even possible?

[Jack Niggleson]

Has anyone successfully done this? If so, how did you pull it off?

Starting out as the marzapanate of gilan is a nonstarter since you're just too small to ever get anywhere and no non-muslim power wants you as a vassal or an ally. Saffarid zoro convert seems like it would work, but you just start out with an impossibly large muslim populist faction that chops you in half before you can do much of anything.

[brownacs]

Yeap. Vandad of Gurgan is an easier start than Gilan. Still one of the hardest in the game but it's doable (I've done it).
EDIT: oh as for how... pretty much what er... pointing hands (the dude beneath me) said. Psychopathic cheesing for the first 100 ish years then you can relax a bit.

[☞☞☞☞☞]

Wahsudan of GIlan gets random traits everytime you start a game. You can just keep rerolling his stats until you can swear fealty to Abbasid caliph. I could have even gotten low feudal obligations or religious protection from the caliph. The Alavid emir guy is harder since his traits are hardcoded and he starts with zealous.

However he has a 3 county zoroastrian vassal which is the most of all zoroastrian characters. The zealous emir will attempt to take your titles and you can lose your land in holy wars declared on your liege.

I remember myself restoring Persia on launch as Vandad Maziarzade of Gurgan, swearing fealty to Tahirid and using the "fabricate claim on liege" perk and being very lucky.

[Jack Niggleson]

Originally posted by ☞☞☞☞☞:

Wahsudan of GIlan gets random traits everytime you start a game. You can just keep rerolling his stats until you can swear fealty to Abbasid caliph. I could have even gotten low feudal obligations or religious protection from the caliph. The Alavid emir guy is harder since his traits are hardcoded and he starts with zealous.

However he has a 3 county zoroastrian vassal which is the most of all zoroastrian characters. The zealous emir will attempt to take your titles and you can lose your land in holy wars declared on your liege.

I remember myself restoring Persia on launch as Vandad Maziarzade of Gurgan, swearing fealty to Tahirid and using the "fabricate claim on liege" perk and being very lucky.

Do you just need absurdly high diplomacy to get him to accept? I only tried gilan a handful of times, but the caliph along with every other decent size nearby ruler always treated me like a leper when it came to vassalage or alliance, modifiers way way in the red, not enough time for a sway scheme before I'd get gobbled up by one of my muslim neighbors/

[☞☞☞☞☞]

No, the caliph has been -30 for me. But I did test 3 times and everytime I was able to become vassal.

[Slimane]

You can always start as one of the Muslim leaders within Persian empire dejure and find a Zoro spouse and simply convert that way.