Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

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DaniTheHero 2020 年 11 月 23 日 下午 4:43
Why is CK3 so unpopular?
The game is newer and has far more polish than previous titles, yet has nearly no YouTube content other than some guides and the player count for eu4 and hoi4 is 2-3 times higher.

Sure it lacks some content that exists in 8 year old ck2 due to dlcs but it’s a far more complete package then all previous paradox games on release.

And a bit subjective here, i find hoi far more repetitive and dull compared to ck as a whole so I don’t get the massive popularity difference there either.

Am I missing something?
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DaniTheHero 2020 年 11 月 23 日 下午 9:14 
Because they choose to prioritize streaming instead of patches & content updates so the moddin community isn't very happy atm which mainly affects game longevity.

In long run i'm sure game will do well but right now is big oof hours for the community in general.

Didn’t even know people stream this
Sekij 2020 年 11 月 23 日 下午 9:51 
Because they choose to prioritize streaming instead of patches & content updates so the moddin community isn't very happy atm which mainly affects game longevity.

In long run i'm sure game will do well but right now is big oof hours for the community in general.

Those kind of comments are always funny to me :D its kinda in the same boat with "they chose to make more content instead of fixing bugs" as if doing one takes away ressources from the other.

Just think about it for 5 seconds, what have Programmers, Artists and Writers(those that make content and patches) todo with Marketing / streaming section ???
最后由 Sekij 编辑于; 2020 年 11 月 23 日 下午 9:52
Fatbill 2020 年 11 月 23 日 下午 9:58 
Because both EU4 and HOI4 have been sold stupidly cheap a number of times, including the HB subscription, so a lot more people own them. This was done so there would be more "customers" to buy DLCs.

That fewer people play CK3 only means they have sold comparatively fewer copies (which they have).

Personally, I am in no hurry to buy CK3, after playing it for two weekends on a laptop: the game obviously needs some serious work to get into good shape, and the UI stinks.


As an aside, I can't understand how anyone can play HOI4 with as rock stupid as the AI is in that game, unless they are play only against other people.

Worst AI I have ever seen in a released strategy game.
最后由 Fatbill 编辑于; 2020 年 11 月 23 日 下午 9:58
DayChap 2020 年 11 月 23 日 下午 11:11 
Once a complete Lord of the Rings, or Game of Thrones mod is out it'll get a thousand lets plays on youtube which then drives people to go buy the game.
Jiro Dragonheart 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 12:00 
Gameranx and ACG did a review, Call me Kevin, RTGame, The Spiffing Brit, Many a True Nerd all have let's plays of it. It's doing fine based on my subscription list.
7TO7 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 12:01 
because this game is for the men, but there are a lot of boys in steam
TitanViper 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 12:46 
you said it yourself, it lacks content. It feels fresh for a while but not enough to keep people enganged.
Zornvel 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 3:06 
Unpopular?

Steam Charts:

Crusader Kings 2 ~ 4800 peak last 24 h (and it's free to play...)
Crusader Kings 3 ~ 14100 peak last 24 h

And for other games EU4, HOI4, Stellaris they are other games with other game design (other time lines), in all of them you lead a country not a person/family. So other kind of players were interested in them.
Steefy_92 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 3:18 
Also let's put together a year span of EU IV compared to less than 3 months CK3 player count according to steam chart:

EU IV: (barely making to 16k peak a year from release)
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August 2014 5,854.7 - 10,337
July 2014 6,352.8 - 11,018
June 2014 7,032.6 16,485
May 2014 4,384.8 14,090
April 2014 4,156.6 7,778
March 2014 4,282.8 8,228
February 2014 4,290.6 8,256
January 2014 4,862.9 9,956
December 2013 4,019.6 7,867
November 2013 3,331.6 8,669
October 2013 3,148.0 6,193
September 2013 4,132.1 9,774
August 2013 4,486.0 15,530
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CK 3? Yeah it had a huge drop but that will increase over the time:

Last 30 Days 12,925.3 27,116
October 2020 20,782.2 46,009
September 2020 48,312.5 - 98,474

I won't bother with HoI IV you can check that yourself. Actually it's barely even beating CK3 when you look at play count now, but let's go back into past, shell we?

November 2016 4,981.2 9,212
October 2016 5,330.6 9,807
September 2016 5,860.1 10,964
August 2016 6,268.5 10,376
July 2016 8,959.5 15,776
June 2016 2,326.1 40,623

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By this statics CK 3 is in reality more popular and fares better in comparsion to the two titles player count, as you can see HoI IV had it the worse for a half year and more
EA Latium 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 4:00 
It seems very popular to me, had a very successful launch. I don't know about Youtube, that probably follows "rules" of its own, EU4 and HOI4 had been around for a long time now and received a lot of additional content, that normally gives more content ideas for videos and stuff.

引用自 LuckyPhil
You need to read the negative reviews. Lots of people hate this trash game for very valid reasons.

Only 9% of the total reviews are negative - that says something too. It's not perfect by any means, but we should look at the whole picture if we want to be objective.
Rob'sEvilTwin 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 4:51 
It isn't, but people like to complain :P

Critical success, very solid sales for a Grand Strategy title, and a lot of people playing.
DaniTheHero 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:33 
引用自 Rob'sEvilTwin
It isn't, but people like to complain :P

Critical success, very solid sales for a Grand Strategy title, and a lot of people playing.

Way less than older competing Pardox titles.
Rialm 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:43 
引用自 DaniTheHero
Was more comparing to hoi4 and eu4
I'm a newbie. This year I started playing Paradox's Games.
I'm playing HOI4 and for the last 2 month, I've been waiting for 1.2 patch CK3.

I think HOI4 is more popular because is more a strategic game than CK3 + the game is much much shorter. It takes me more time to learn the Focus tree and to plan than what I end up doing.

While I'm playing CK3 I have to pay more attention.

Love both games! :p4g_singing:
Spetsnaz 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:50 
Tbh, there are a couple of youtubers that are doing CK3. Feels it is the same as it was for CK2. Think the main problem and why people make more videos about HOI4 is becuse Hoi4 is shorter and not so random.
Sgt. Ligma 2020 年 11 月 24 日 上午 6:01 
This is actually more popular than CK2 was at release. It has more active players than CK2 currently has. I personally love it.

There's a vocal, loud minority of people who hate it, which is their right. But most people love the game, and it's only going to get better with more free and paid content. I honestly can't wait
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