Tell me I'm wrong about Keepsakes

[Goomy]

Pretty much every single run I use:

Tartarus: Chthonic Coin Purse
Asphodel: Bone Hourglass
Elysium: Bone Hourglass
Styx: Broken Spearpoint
Legendary: Shady

I never really feel like there is any reason for me to use any other Keepsakes than these.

Would be interested if someone were to tell me that actually there are some good reasons to sometimes use some of the other Keepsakes instead?

[Fringehunter7719]

Is the +20% rare chance that important though? I don't think the chaos trinket causes a chaos gate to spawn does it?

[Wassail]

Do the accrued bonuses from Lambent Plume and Pierced Butterfly remain after switching them out?

[Fringehunter7719]

They don't.

[Wassail]

That's fair enough. Cheers.

[Insanitys Muse]

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

Is the +20% rare chance that important though? I don't think the chaos trinket causes a chaos gate to spawn does it?

The rare bonus is pretty significant for all the boons really, not just Chaos, but the other thing it does is remove the health cost for going into a Chaos portal which is pretty big if you're running reduced healing Pact. Taking 20+ damage 1-3 times adds up when you only get back 19 from a Charon Well.

It's actually less of an issue with the new Spear aspect since you can heal up pretty easily the first biome.

[KoUJkoDeBo4ka]

Lucky tooth is great for Styx, as it is closing Your runs. I won't even pretend I could tell how many times it actually saved the run. And it also often keeps me cool, knowing that I am not pressed to the wall.
Pierced butterfly I have used quite a lot before, not so much now. First, it demands of You to use it all the time, wich is not so good. If You switch it, You lose damage bonus, rendering Your hard work of not getting hit wasted. Also, with tight deadline You do not have the luxury of taking Your time, even for +40-ish % damage increase.
Cosmic egg is phenomenal. Not only it increases rarity of boons but makes it free to enter Chaos gates, and those runs are generally can get quite broken, especially if You, let's say, stack increses of damage to certain damage type, such as stacking cast damage bonuses, while using Poseidon's sword and having Poseidon's cast + secondary shot + legendary for +3 ammo from Artemis.
What I do not appreciate is broken spearpoint, as it is nerfed quite badly, and generally I would say that Athena's boon of the similar sort does just more job that the spearpoint.
Nyx's one I am being on the fence about, although I wonder if maybe it ignores lasting consequences. In such case it would be a vital source of healing during max lasting consequences run.

[Fringehunter7719]

Broken spearpoint works well with lifesteal, I don't find it that useful without it.

[txh0881]

I typically pick Ares for the start, hoping to get his amazingly good Call and Doom skills. Preferably with stacking Doom. Then, I switch to Feather Duster for easy healing, and finish off with Tooth, for the extra Death Defy at the end.

[Jeshrack]

Maybe I'm not fully understanding how the god keepsakes work, but don't they just cause the next boon be from that god?

Doesn't that mean they do absolutely nothing after you get that boon for the rest of the stage?


That seems kind of lack luster to me.

I feel like they should have at least some persistent effect. Maybe they cause all boons to be more likely of the chosen god?

It feels bad to have a single effect and then nothing. I suppose they give a rarity boost, but that only matters if you happen to find that god again.

[Fringehunter7719]

Originally posted by Jeshrack:

Maybe I'm not fully understanding how the god keepsakes work, but don't they just cause the next boon be from that god?

Doesn't that mean they do absolutely nothing after you get that boon for the rest of the stage?

The key thing is that after you've accepted a boon from four different gods, you don't get any more gods. Locking a god in early means you, statistically, get more boons from that god and have full control over your playstyle.

Leaving it to chance may see you lock in a god who is of little use to your current weapon or playstyle, especially in early rooms which feature just one exit. You can get around this with rerolls but it's a lot of darkness invested before you really have those to spare.

[Jeshrack]

Ah, I didn't realize you only got 4 different gods.

Thanks for the info!

I'd still like some kind of ongoing effect for the god keepsakes, but this does make them seem more valuable.

[Loomi]

God > god > god/purse > dmg reduction or skelly. I put a great deal of value into getting those juicy duo-boons. Besides fated authority, god-keepsakes are the only way to bruteforce your way to duo-boons.

[Xiander]

Originally posted by Jeshrack:

Ah, I didn't realize you only got 4 different gods.

Thanks for the info!

I'd still like some kind of ongoing effect for the god keepsakes, but this does make them seem more valuable.

There is an ongoing effect, though it is suptle. Apart from guaranteeing you a boon from you favorite god, the keepsakes also boost chances of getting rare boons from the god in question.

[Nerdmigo]

Originally posted by Goomy:

Pretty much every single run I use:

Tartarus: Chthonic Coin Purse
Asphodel: Bone Hourglass
Elysium: Bone Hourglass
Styx: Broken Spearpoint
Legendary: Shady

I never really feel like there is any reason for me to use any other Keepsakes than these.

Would be interested if someone were to tell me that actually there are some good reasons to sometimes use some of the other Keepsakes instead?

You can change keepsakes mid run?

[Fringehunter7719]

One of the earlier contractor upgrades puts a station in the room after the boss between each floor that lets you change it.